All Time Flames Roster And How They Stack Up

[simonsays]

So my premise is to create the best all time lineup for the Flames. Then it can be compared to other all time rosters.


Rules are simple, players can play for multiple teams but only consider their performance with the club. eg: Martin St. Louis, could be on your team, but he'd be a tweener at best for CGY.



This is my attempt.

Gary Roberts - Joe Nieuwendyk - Jarome Iginla

Matthew Tkachuk - Doug Gilmour - Theoren Fleury
Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Jim Peplinski
Kent Nilsson - Daymond Langkow - Håkan Loob


Gary Suter - Al MacInnis
Mark Giordano - Phil Housley
Robyn Regehr - Brad McCrimmon


I'd love to see some other line ups and talk about how they match against other teams all time rosters.

[looooob]

Pepper over lanny or Mullen or ... ?

[TheScorpion]

Roberts - Nieuwendyk - Iginla
Mullen - Gilmour - Loob
Fleury - Chouinard - McDonald
Gaudreau - Nilsson - Makarov
Extras: Tkachuk, Monahan, Otto, Cammalleri

Suter - MacInnis
Giordano - Brodie
Regehr - McCrimmon
Extras: Macoun, Hamilton

Kiprusoff
Vernon
Extra: Smith

[TheScorpion]

double post

I liked Cammalleri and Smith so I put them on my team but Conroy and Lemelin probably take their places on merit.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Roberts - Nieuwendyk - Iginla
Mullen - Gilmour - Loob
Fleury - Chouinard - McDonald
Gaudreau - Nilsson - Makarov
Extras: Tkachuk, Monahan, Otto, Cammalleri

Suter - MacInnis
Giordano - Brodie
Regehr - McCrimmon
Extras: Macoun, Hamilton

Kiprusoff
Vernon
Extra: Smith

NM, I am dumb

[codynw]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Extra: Smith

Smith, as in Mike Smith? The guy had one decent season and one disaster of a season. Surely there's a better option than him. I'd even put Karri Ramo over Mike Smith and Ramo probably isn't #3 either.

[jlh2640]

Here’s mine.

Roberts Neiuwendyk Iginla
Gaudreau Monahan Fleury
Cammaleri Gilmour McDonald
Tkachuk Otto Mullen
Tanguay Conroy

Just missed
Loob Backlund Nilsson

Mcinnis Suter
Giordano regehr
Phaneuf Bouwmeester
Housley

Just missed
Brodie Macoun

Kipper
Vernon
Kidd

Missed
Mike smith. Rittich. Ramo.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by codynw

Smith, as in Mike Smith? The guy had one decent season and one disaster of a season. Surely there's a better option than him. I'd even put Karri Ramo over Mike Smith and Ramo probably isn't #3 either.

He was the MVP of the team in 2017-18 and was the playoff hero in 2019. I'm taking him on my team.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Roberts - Nieuwendyk - Iginla
Mullen - Gilmour - Loob
Fleury - Chouinard - McDonald
Gaudreau - Nilsson - Makarov
Extras: Tkachuk, Monahan, Otto, Cammalleri

Suter - MacInnis
Giordano - Brodie
Regehr - McCrimmon
Extras: Macoun, Hamilton

Kiprusoff
Vernon
Extra: Smith

Made some changes to your lineup. You need a shutdown line so I did some replacement of the 4th. Otto was one of the Flames best 2 way centers along with Patterson on wing. Hunter adds the toughness we need.

On defence I switched out Hamilton for Paul Reinhart.

As a goalie extra I put in Pat Riggin


Roberts - Nieuwendyk - Iginla
Mullen - Gilmour - Loob
Fleury - Chouinard - McDonald
Patterson - Otto - Hunter
Extras: Tkachuk, Monahan, Gaudreau

Suter - MacInnis
Giordano - Brodie
Regehr - McCrimmon
Extras: Macoun, Reinhart

Kiprusoff
Vernon
Extra: Riggin

[Samonadreau]

If it comes to picking Mike Smith as #3 I'm going with 2 Goalies.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I liked Pepper sure.....

The only way he makes any All Time List is to come running onto the ice in his long underwear after it's all over.

[Harry Lime]

First Ballot all time Flames (regular) :
Need 4 players to fill offense (bolded) :
Need 2 players to fill defense (bolded) :

Gary Roberts - Kent Nilsson - Jarome Iginla
Joe Mullen - Joe Neiuwendyk - Sergei Makarov
Hakan Loob - Doug Gilmour - Theoren Fleury
Johnny Gaudreau - Guy Chouinard - Lanny McDonald

Gary Suter - Al MacInnis
Mark Giordano - Phil Housley
Brad McCrimmon - Jamie Macoun

Mikka Kiprusoff
Mike Vernon


There are probably better all star teams that can be put together. The Habs would be impressive. But in terms of a team that can grind out 16 wins in a playoff year, against pretty much anyone, this team has a prefect combination of grit/talent/drive to win.

It's kind of telling that the 1989 team is so well represented, and there are only two current Flames. IMO the 1989 squad was one of the best ever built, though.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Gary Roberts - Kent Nilsson - Jarome Iginla
Joe Mullen - Joe Nieuwendyk - Theoren Fleury
Hakan Loob - Doug Gilmour - Lanny McDonald
Johnny Gaudreau - Guy Chouinard - Sergei Makarov
Joel Otto/Craig Conroy

Gary Suter - Al MacInnis
Mark Giordano - Paul Reinhart
Brad McCrimmon - Robyn Regehr
Jamie Macoun/Housley

Mikka Kiprusoff
Mike Vernon
Lemelin

I like your lineup with the exception of the Reinhart and Regehr omissions. It's crazy how many great defensemen have played for the Flames that were meaningful contributors while on the team.

Honorable mentions on forward to Otto and Conroy for both being Selke finalists multiple times

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Dion

Made some changes to your lineup. You need a shutdown line so I did some replacement of the 4th. Otto was one of the Flames best 2 way centers along with Patterson on wing. Hunter adds the toughness we need.

On defence I switched out Hamilton for Paul Reinhart.

As a goalie extra I put in Pat Riggin


Roberts - Nieuwendyk - Iginla
Mullen - Gilmour - Loob
Fleury - Chouinard - McDonald
Patterson - Otto - Hunter, I would put in Conroy or Langkow
Extras: Tkachuk, Monahan, Gaudreau

Suter - MacInnis
Giordano - Brodie
Regehr - McCrimmon
Extras: Macoun, Reinhart

Kiprusoff
Vernon
Extra: Riggin

Too many on this board are too young to have seen Otto play. He was a good one, contributed so much. So strong on the puck, consistent, showed up in big games, and was rarely injured.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

He was the MVP of the team in 2017-18 and was the playoff hero in 2019. I'm taking him on my team.

Can you have a hero in a year where you win one playoff game?

Lemelin, Riggin, Brathwaite, Bouchard, Ramo all come before Smith IMO.

[Buff]

Roberts - Nieuwendyk - Loob
Gaudreau - Gilmour - Mullen
Tkachuk - Nilsson - Iginla
McDonald - Otto - Fleury
Monahan
Makarov

Suter - MacInnis
Giordano - Regehr
Macoun - Housley
Reinhart
Brodie

Kiprusoff
Vernon

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Buff

Roberts - Nieuwendyk - Loob
Gaudreau - Gilmour - Mullen
Tkachuk - Nilsson - Iginla
McDonald - Otto - Fleury
Monahan
Makarov

Suter - MacInnis
Giordano - Regehr
Macoun - Housley
Reinhart
Brodie

Kiprusoff
Vernon

Now that's a team what wins multiple cups. Like 7 or 8 in a row

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by boogerz

I like your lineup with the exception of the Reinhart and Regehr omissions. It's crazy how many great defensemen have played for the Flames that were meaningful contributors while on the team.

Honorable mentions on forward to Otto and Conroy for both being Selke finalists multiple times

Yeah, I loved Otto when I was a kid. He should absolutely be in there as an alternate/in place of Chouinard. The defense is is tough one. Housley was the only reason to watch a lot of the games he played in, and if he played during the current era he would be a monster. The same goes for Markov and Zubov on other teams, they just played in the wrong era, but were still really good. I struggled a bit with the bottom 3 defense, as they are all about the same level.

Interesting with Nilsson. If you were to rate the players historically with the most skill (this has been mentioned in numerous articles by players) a lot of mention is made of Gretzky, Lemieux, Kovalev and Nilsson. The seperation between the four was desire to win, and overall 'give a ####'. That's something that doesn't show up in any on ice metric, but is so important.