Unions - Your opinion

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

Would you want to work in a slaughterhouse for the rest of your life @22.48 /hr? It might not be a job requiring a lot of education, it isn't exactly the most pleasant place to work.

I wouldn't want to work in a slaughterhouse under pretty much any circumstances, but that's not the point. Looks to me like $22.48 is the max they are going to get in that market. It's either that or $0.00 an hour for those slaughterhouse employees. Which is the better wage?

Pretty stupid move by the union and the employees I think. Talk about Entitlement Syndrome.

[jar_e]

I just found out that I had paid union dues off my paycheck for the past 8 months and I wasn't even part of the union.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I wouldn't want to work in a slaughterhouse under pretty much any circumstances, but that's not the point. Looks to me like $22.48 is the max they are going to get in that market. It's either that or $0.00 an hour for those slaughterhouse employees. Which is the better wage?

Pretty stupid move by the union and the employees I think. Talk about Entitlement Syndrome.

I tend to agree. That's the problems with unions IMO, they tell you to hold out b/c the company will give in eventually. And when a plant closes or moves members are out of a job while union reps still continue to collect a paycheck.

Here's some more stupidity.

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2002/0...way020606.html

[troutman]

Rush - The Trees

There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
(And they're quite convinced the're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade.

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"These oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

[Stranger]

I have a friend who was a teacher. When he began teaching he was involved with all the school activities, and was what every school would want. He worked hard, got along well with the students, coached after school and was involved in the small town. When the year was up the school board had to get rid of one teacher on the staff because of a drop in students for the next year, and he was the one to go. He said that because of being the least experienced on the staff he was chosen. It kind of upset him a bit because he said he was by far the most involved on the staff. Alot of the other teachers just put in their time everyday. They had no ambition at all. They were just working toward their pension. He just chalked it up to being the low guy on the teachers union totem pole.

My friend taught at 2 or 3 schools before he finally said screw it and quit teaching. He got tired of bouncing from school to school looking for work while some of the older disinterested teachers got to stay.

Now I know that this probably happens in non union jobs too, but if I'm looking to employ someone and I can find a young go getter, who is eager to work and contributes extra to the company, I'll choose him to replace the guy who mails it in everyday and could care less.

I don't know. Unions have their place I guess but they seem to be out dated abit. In a competitive market like Alberta they almost seem un-needed, when workers are at such a premium.

[4X4]

I remember working at co-op back in the day. Because of the union rules, it was nearly impossible to fire slacker employees. Raises were based on hours "worked" rather than good work. People with seniority were first in line for promotions...
I really liked the job (gas bar) and did it all thru high school, but then I got promoted to supervisor and the lack of available disciplinary action caused me to quit.
I'll never forget one girl that I worked with. The absolute queen of slackers. She'd claim to have carpel tunnel syndrome and therefore couldn't do anything like open a hood, wash windows (the squeegee aggrivated her wrist), definitely no filling barbecue tanks for her.
Everytime I worked with her, I basically had to let her operate the cash register for her to do any work.
God, she was so ugly too. I think of her when I think of unions.



However, I do think that trade unions are a completely different and much more useful thing. Its these little ****ant unions that take over 10 man warehouses and grocery stores that are more like parasites to the company.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by troutman

Rush - The Trees

There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
(And they're quite convinced the're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade.

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"These oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

You're talking about two different species, oaks and maples, last I looked, humans are the same species. Sounds like a bunch of elitest bull to me.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

You're talking about two different species, oaks and maples, last I looked, humans are the same species. Sounds like a bunch of elitest bull to me.

Really? I thought they both fell under the plant species.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Really? I thought they both fell under the plant species.

I'm no biologist but plants are a kingdom.

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=species.&gwp=16

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I'm no biologist but plants are a kingdom.

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=species.&gwp=16

Touche. I think the point still stands.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Touche. I think the point still stands.

What point. Get back to work.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

What point. Get back to work.

The point of the song.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Dodsdomd

Don't think Ir. Le. doesn't notice!

Can she turn on a computer? hehe

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The point of the song.

Uh, I get it now, the rich are a different species and naturaly bigger and better, kind of like the 'divine right of kings' .

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Uh, I get it now, the rich are a different species and naturaly bigger and better, kind of like the 'divine right of kings' .

Clearly you don't get it.

[Looger]

i took the song to mean that the oaks were the ambitious, and the others the lazy.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Looger

i took the song to mean that the oaks were the ambitious, and the others the lazy.

Comparing apples and oranges, which in my world, doesn't apply to humans.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Comparing apples and oranges, which in my world, doesn't apply to humans.

Or Retrievers to Labs?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Or Retrievers to Labs?

That's a better comparison, same species but you know a lab is a retriever. Why do I bother.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

That's a better comparison, same species but you know a lab is a retriever. Why do I bother.

LOL. Yeah, I was going to say Labs and Terriers.