What do you do with the coaching position?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don’t think they are doing that. They obviously came to a settlement which by definition is less than full payment.

I don’t know why Peters would have settled for anything materially less than what he was contractually owed. If Peters gave them much of a discount for any minor concessions like being allowed to resign, then his negotiating skills are on par with his racial sensitivities, among other things.

What do you think they settled for?

[Hackey]

Laviolette and Gallant would be great. I feel like the make up of this group might not work with Sutter. Boudreau I'm indifferent on. Take him over Ward though probably.

[Sylvanfan]

Sounds like Laviolette will not come to Canada, especially a small Western outpost like Calgary if there are any American options.

Gallant is pretty much penciled in for Detroit.

Seattle will be a very attractive job. San Jose also is will be a job that interests top guys.

So finding a new coach isn't as easy as just hiring the guys who are out there. The prime candidates are still getting paid and like free agents get to choose where they work.

So I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames are working off the B list of available coaches. But I do think Ward will not retain the job unless the team has a run that no one saw to close the season and gets to the Conference Finals.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Laviolette and Gallant would be great. I feel like the make up of this group might not work with Sutter. Boudreau I'm indifferent on. Take him over Ward though probably.

Boudreau would be instantly by far the best coach this organization has had since Darryl and probably the 3rd best in the history of the organization on day one of his hiring. A .635 winning percentage in over 2000 games is top three all-time. The reality is he's guaranteed to do better than Gallant at least in the regular season who doesn't' have nearly the record of overall success. You think a team that values just making the playoffs like the Flames would go all out to get a guy that does that every season.

[dissentowner]

Boudreau has also always spoken highly of the Flames when asked about them in the past. I think he is our best bet as a guy who would be excited to get the gig. His record is fantastic and he has employed different systems depending on the roster he was working with. He coached an uptempo possession team in Washington, something this team needs to employ. The more I think about it the more I think he is the best fit here. I like that he is a players coach but can be a hard ass in the room when needed.

[Kovaz]

I'd be all over Boudreau, he's an excellent coach. The playoff game 7 thing is way overblown IMO. Taking the eventual cup winner to 7 games and losing the goalie battle in game 7 is nothing to be ashamed of, and he's had that happen 3 times.

[rooster]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Correct. But paying your racist ex coach two years of salary in one fiscal year sure counts against the operating budget.

That is chicken feed for Edwards compared to what he has siphoned off from hard working Albertans.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

I'd be all over Boudreau, he's an excellent coach. The playoff game 7 thing is way overblown IMO. Taking the eventual cup winner to 7 games and losing the goalie battle in game 7 is nothing to be ashamed of, and he's had that happen 3 times.

Good article below in regards to his legacy. Of of the game 7 losses he's coached, his goaltenders have been largely been terrible in those games and that's somewhat out of a coach's control. As we see a lot in the playoffs in tight series, the difference between winning and losing usually comes down to goaltending.

https://puckprose.com/2020/02/15/bru...d-fascinating/

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Did Murray Edwards get to be a billionaire by pure dumb luck?

Judging by how the Flames are run the answer is likely: "Yes".

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Sounds like Laviolette will not come to Canada, especially a small Western outpost like Calgary if there are any American options.

Gallant is pretty much penciled in for Detroit.

Seattle will be a very attractive job. San Jose also is will be a job that interests top guys.

So finding a new coach isn't as easy as just hiring the guys who are out there. The prime candidates are still getting paid and like free agents get to choose where they work.

So I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames are working off the B list of available coaches. But I do think Ward will not retain the job unless the team has a run that no one saw to close the season and gets to the Conference Finals.

We constantly hear about players or coaches not interested in coming to Calgary for various reasons. As such it sounds like we are destined to be a bottom tier team if we can't attract or keep top talent. A big part of the role that the GM and Owners should undertake is changing attitudes and doing everything they can to bring in the best of the best. If the market won't support great players and coaches coming to town I would certainly be looking at relocation options if I was the ownership group.

[The Hendog]

Hire Gallant in the offseason

Sounds like he has a short shelf life but gets good results during that time.

Time is right, team is in its prime for results as well so giver and hope it works.

[Tailgator]

I’m sure Ward is a nice guy and I’m sure he’s a good AHL coach, maybe a decent NHL assistant coach, but he doesn’t seem to be able to hang with the head coaches in the NHL.

He seems to get out coached a lot of games. In game adjustments seem to turn out poorly. Not calling a time out to rest your guys the throwing out Looch with the extra man? C’mon man!

He doesn’t seem to have a really good handle on personnel either. This deep into the season and Backlund, Johnny, and Monny have to come to the coach to suggest where to put things?

I think it’s time for this organization to actually put a real, proven head coach in place. Someone with playoff success that can roll with the rigours of stretch/playoff hockey.

Laviolette and Gallant would be solid choices. As would Boudreau.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I don’t know why Peters would have settled for anything materially less than what he was contractually owed. If Peters gave them much of a discount for any minor concessions like being allowed to resign, then his negotiating skills are on par with his racial sensitivities, among other things.

What do you think they settled for?

Because there would have been an argument he was let go for cause, in which case he gets zero. Also an argument the other way. So you settle.

My guess? 50-50

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

I doubt the Gallant's and Laviollette's are interested in coaching the Flames. They'll sit back and relax with their families until the off-season unfolds and they pick an American club. Flames haven't showed any willingness in the past to spend big on a coach so I expect another underwhelming hire, honestly. The only hope we have as fans is if the management and ownership group feel desperate enough to pay market price for a real, playoff-experienced coach.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

There’s a flaw in your premise. I don’t think they had the choice - I don’t think any of them are available right now. It would, in fact, be silly for them to do so.

I actually made a typo. I meant to say Chance instead of Choice

[drewtastic]

At this point, I'd just like someone who can have some longevity...

I guess the likes of Badger Bob really are hard to find. Man, I miss that guy.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Because there would have been an argument he was let go for cause, in which case he gets zero. Also an argument the other way. So you settle.

My guess? 50-50

I think that is very, very unlikely. That would have been a delicate argument for the Flames to make given these things occurred prior to him being under contract with the club. No doubt both sides signed confidentiality agreements and releases, but IMO I doubt he would have given up on two years of pay so quickly.

[Corral]

Firing coaches every couple years has caught up to this franchise. You can only scapegoat for so long. We seem to be the last stop for head coaching aspirations. Thats no secret and lots of talent will simply look elsewhere. Won’t be surprised if ward gets to stay

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Corral

Firing coaches every couple years has caught up to this franchise. You can only scapegoat for so long. We seem to be the last stop for head coaching aspirations. Thats no secret and lots of talent will simply look elsewhere. Won’t be surprised if ward gets to stay

Well that's one way to view it (the jaded way I guess)

The other way to view it as the anybody coming is gets to coach a team that is mostly unchanged from best in the west in 2018-19 and that has tremendous young talent (Tkachuk, Monahan, Gaudreau, Mangiapane, Dube, Valimaki, Andersson, Hanifin, Kylington) and some good veterans (Backlund, Gio, Ryan). Ownership is seen as very stable as well and management has been quite stable of the last number of years

So while you're grasping to find reasons why coaches will turn us down, there's plenty of obvious reasons as to why the Flames would be a very attractive place to coach. I'm sure there are some coaches that wouldn't want to come here. But overall I would think its a quite attractive destination for some given the roster composition and the youth of the core. This team will be competitive for many years to come.

[badradio]

Ward will be a blip in the Flames history books... Should hire someone now, but I know they won’t. Also, you don’t fire a guy like Peters and hire Sutter or Babs... Unfortunate, because I think it’s what the team needs. Gallant would be my first choice. IMO firing Hartley and hiring the bad GG was the worst move Tre ever made and set this organization back years.