I've never heard a defenseman criticized for not chasing someone behind your net. It's a terrible play all the time.
Well, no. Aggressive hockey teams will do that. Aggressive is good if everyone knows their assignments. Of course when one guy screws up it becomes a "this guy scored" moment.
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Maybe I was watching a different game but I thought the Flames played there asses off. I do think Rittich gets worked up and starts flopping all over at the end. Maybe trying to make it look like some spectacular save at times when it really shouldn’t be. If he just stands up instead of doing his best Hasek imitation the tying goal would never go in.
As Cassie would say “no question” that was a good game to watch.
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Gio following the guy behind the net flushed him out so the guy had only one way to come out, not two. Brodie recognized that and then came from the other side to prevent the wrap around. When they know that there was just a few seconds left, it’s a decent desperation play, because any disruption or catching a piece of the puck and that’s the game.
If Brodie stands and stays out front and that guy gets half way around the net and banks it off Brodie, the complaint would be why didn’t he go behind the net, or, if the guy reversed back behind the net to the same side he came from,would be asking why Gio didn’t go behind the net (and say he’s too tired from being off for 10 games).
Bottom line I think the defense played it well given that there was 3 seconds left when the move started, not 10 or something. I’d have to see the forward configuration, but, on the eye test live and watching a few replays, as mentioned, the biggest struggler on the goal looked clearly to be a flailing akward Rittich.
Why are you flushing the guy behind the net out? He can’t score and they have an extra man. Now you’re down two men because Gio is behind the net.
I don’t get fingering Rittich for that play personally. I think in this case you might be looking to blame him given some of his average performances this year.
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Since his bat flip in Edmonton, in Rittich's last 9 games:
.888 save percentage
3.59 goals against average
-0.97 GSAA
29 goals against on 21.48 xGA
You can't show off like that and then #### the bed as your team fights for the Playoffs.
Edit: I say this as someone who loves Rittich and absolutely LOVED the bat flip in Edmonton, but it is frustrating that he's been a let down since that moment
Yikes.
How have Talbots stats been lately. Might want to put Rittich on the shelf for a while with numbers like that.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1233234357080469504?s=20
Watch the puck hit the refs skate after Brodie blocks the pass initially.
And Gio chased him behind the net, and then stopped there and kept him there, preventing him from coming back to Gios side. Not a thing Gio could do better.
And pass out just misses Lindholm stick too.
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Well, no. Aggressive hockey teams will do that. Aggressive is good if everyone knows their assignments. Of course when one guy screws up it becomes a "this guy scored" moment.
One of the fundamentals of teaching defense is that you do not chase the puck carrier into low percentage areas. Behind the net, both corners and both points. As soon as you are no longer between the attacker and the net you are no longer playing defense.
Well, no. Aggressive hockey teams will do that. Aggressive is good if everyone knows their assignments. Of course when one guy screws up it becomes a "this guy scored" moment.
That’s why I lumped Lindholm in with the guilty parties. When Gio chased, it meant that Lindholm needed to be extra aware if who was in front. Both guys blew it. And Rittich was on his tummy for some reason.
https://twitter.com/user/status/YBRVaHiyX5
Watch the puck hit the refs skate after Brodie blocks the pass initially.
And Gio chased him behind the net, and then stopped there and kept him there, preventing him from coming back to Gios side. Not a thing Gio could do better.
And pass out just misses Lindholm stick too.
Why does a defenseman need to chase a player and then guard a part of the ice that he couldn't possibly score from? Guard the guys in front of the net
Umm what does this have to do with tonight game? Also, I’m pretty sure he pays the bills so who gives a crap where he lives or if he’s watching the games?
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The guy I replied to made a reference to the fans not owning the team. If the owner wanted to win this franchise would hire proven winners not first time General mangers that hire coaches for a multimillion dollar business by interviewing one f(**&^g candidate. If he isn't watching that would be a pretty piss poor business owner wouldn't it? Maybe that's why this team is a perennial bottom feeder that rarely makes the playoffs.
Since his bat flip in Edmonton, in Rittich's last 9 games:
.888 save percentage
3.59 goals against average
-0.97 GSAA
29 goals against on 21.48 xGA
You can't show off like that and then #### the bed as your team fights for the Playoffs.
Edit: I say this as someone who loves Rittich and absolutely LOVED the bat flip in Edmonton, but it is frustrating that he's been a let down since that moment
I have suspected this for a while and seeing the numbers confirms.
Also agreed, not complaining about the flip at all.
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Backlund was the best player on the ice tonight and if he keeps this up I'll gladly eat crow for my comments about him not being a 2nd line center and being easy to play against. He was physical and skilled all game which is what we need for playoffs.
And Cassie with comment of the year, "I was thinking in my brain..." after the Mangiapane goal.
This is the NHL The philosophies you are arguing are not the philosophies most teams subscribe to. Remember this?:
That's what happens when anyone in this league has time and space.
As nice as it sounds on paper not to chase someone to x spot, in reality if you give NHLers time and space they will make you pay for it.
C'mon now, we're getting ridiculous here. That's not what happens when 'anyone' in this league has time and space. I'm not going to be convinced for one minute that chasing the puck into low percentage areas is a better idea than playing positional hockey and collapsing to the net.
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One of the fundamentals of teaching defense is that you do not chase the puck carrier into low percentage areas. Behind the net, both corners and both points. As soon as you are no longer between the attacker and the net you are no longer playing defense.
Not to mention the clock is on your side. “Flushing him out” is to the opponent’s advantage in this scenario.
