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Old 02-24-2020, 01:47 PM   #181
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No biggie, just Lucic moving...
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:47 PM   #182
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Didn't lose much, gained a little bit. Hard to be mad at today IMO, the deadline is a silly time to make big moves anyways. Its all about rentals, acquiring depth, and picks.

Treliving makes his moves at the draft, and history has shown that. To expect anything else would be crazy.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:47 PM   #183
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Maybe Czarnik too. Definitely just a depth guy for a mid round pick imo
I was thinking Czarnik too
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:47 PM   #184
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My guess would be Davidson. Kylington isn't "major", but more than "minor". Middling? Mid-tier? Can't think of any m words.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:47 PM   #185
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My money’s on Czarnik.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:48 PM   #186
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I was thinking Czarnik too
I suspect it is Czarnik. One thing management has done is move out players that have been unhappy about their role.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:48 PM   #187
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Honest question, what are the chances that other GMs simply dont like BT and prefer not to do business with him?
I think it has more to do with the fact that teams like the Ducks and Sharks don't want to trade within the division.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:48 PM   #188
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ugh, I swear if we just traded Kylington
I would consider Kylington major. I think Stone/Reider/Robinson/Davidson might be a more likely scenario.
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No biggie, just Lucic moving...
Yep, for a late pick. Just making space for Hall in July. Nothing to see here.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:48 PM   #190
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But if the team isn't a contender (and I agree they aren't), then why hang onto our UFA defencemen, and spend picks on bringing in more UFA defencemen?

It's the incoherence of the strategy that's baffling. Unless the thinking is:

"Not good enough to contend, but not bad enough to look to the future."

Which management should probably just stencil above the dressing room doors as the team motto.
I think sometimes fans forget that it is a business.

The Flames are probably going to make the playoffs, even though they are not legit contenders. Plus, the west is wide open.

Every single playoff home game is worth significant revenue. And the Flames basically just break even in the regular season, so playoff revenue is the entire icing on the cake.

Then there are the STHs who drop $5 - $20k for a pair of tickets. You can't just ignore them. They have already paid for the seats, and would prefer that the team has an actual chance to win.

So you shore up the D. And let's be clear here, the cost of doing so will have NO NEGATIVE IMPACT on future building whatsoever. The players that the Flames wan to draft this summer, they will draft.

And maybe - just maybe - they might get hot in April and actually do something in the playoffs.

Imagine this scenario: Oilers win the division. Flames finish 4th, and they meet in the 1st round. But Treliving does nothing at the deadline, and the Flames dress Stone and Yelesin on D.

To me, THAT is a fireable offense. But a playoff team shoring up their D without spending significant assets? That seems pretty prudent IMO.
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My money’s on Czarnik.
Czarnik to the Bruins for Debrusk. He wants to be closer to daddy!
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:49 PM   #192
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Davidson to SJ
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:49 PM   #193
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I am underwhelmed, but looking at the deals that went down not surprised.
This team has a shot at the playoffs and even winning a round if their best players pick it up - so selling is not a good idea
That leaves two possibilities - a hockey deal, or adding.
With some of the eye-watering prices to add, I am glad that this team did not drop a 1st/ 2 high picks/ pick + prospect which seemed to be the going rate. The only deal that would have made sense for cost to add depth scoring was Namestnikov.
I am disappointed that there was no hockey deal to move a defenceman for a forward, especially as that is a position with UFAs and young players (so capital to spend) and this team is really lacking a top 6 RW. But when the teams to make these trades with are also up against the cap and in playoff battles, it is hard to bring that together. There really was only one hockey trade, and that was the Trocheck - Haula deal. There was no defenceman for a forward deal, and even with the prices going around, that is a big risk to deal a D for pick(s) and then try to flip for a forward. You can't make guys wait up against a deadline.

The "failure" today speaks more to a failure to address the needs of this team in the offseason/earlier in the year. What this team needed wasn't going to happen in an 11th hour deal.
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Brandon Davidson to SJ! Per Friedman.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:50 PM   #196
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I suspect it is Czarnik. One thing management has done is move out players that have been unhappy about their role.
Given the lack of forward moves, I now very much hope we are calling him up.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:50 PM   #197
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Minor = Czarnik, Reider, Rinaldo, Davidson. Maybe Yelesin I guess.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:50 PM   #198
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:50 PM   #199
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Are there no flames media who can get the details of this trade 45 minutes after the trade deadline has passed?
Flames had to make this third deal in order for the Gustafsson trade to go through. Basically we were over the cap if we took on Gus so they couldn't make it official unless we make this third deal
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:51 PM   #200
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Yup.

I am more disappointed that nothing major happened during the offseason.
This. The deadline is just that, a deadline. The disappointment from fans stems from the realization that in a year, the GM wasn’t able to improve the team while failing to get any value for a number of players who appear to be poised to leave the team.

Now the clock will start again after the season is over. Acquiring good players will still be expensive and Flames likely to have a few less assets from which to trade.

I don’t hate the adds today. Hopefully it helps us see some playoff hockey this year.
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