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View Poll Results: What do you want the Flames to do at the deadline?
Go All-in 5 6.41%
Buy 10 12.82%
Stand Pat 24 30.77%
Sell 35 44.87%
Blow It UP! 4 5.13%
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:53 PM   #81
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:54 PM   #82
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:34 AM   #83
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Kapanen or Athanasiou would add some badly-needed speed up front. Unfortunately, as a LW, Athanasiou plays a position the Flames are already strong at.

Travis Konecny would be a nice add, though he would probably cost Gaudreau, particularly since Philly is in a playoff spot.

The Flames need an elite right-handed centre and/or a top-6 RH RW, along with D prospects. It's not likely they can add a very young D or an elite C, so it'll be interesting to see what Treliving does, if anything. A right-shot top-6 RW could be doable, but who knows. Bringing in an underwhelming depth player or two would be my guess.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:16 AM   #84
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When there was no salary cap, and contract terms and player salaries were not widely known, and when drafting and worrying about draft picks really was not much more than an after thought for NHL teams and thus not as valuable, you could do those deals.
Fletcher wasn't afraid to shake up his team when he thought he could improve it. Just look at the Brett Hull trade to the Blues.
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Old 02-24-2020, 02:13 AM   #85
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Have the fortitude to maximize our assets.

If that means a hockey deal that sees Hanifin go for a forward, or Gaudreau go for something else, that's fine. I was ecstatic when the Hamilton+Ferland+Fox for Lindholm and Hanifin trade went down and if the Flames could pull another one off like that, that would be just fine by me.

I'd prefer at a minimum to sell off any pieces that are ufas to be.
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Old 02-24-2020, 04:22 AM   #86
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I want the Flames to go for it, but by "it" I mean multiple draft picks. Sell the UFA's and trade away at least one guy who's under contract for at least next season. A hockey deal for futures would be great but I really only see that happening in the off season.

I've said it before, there's only a handful of guys on this team I wouldn't trade. Unfortunately I see them giving up their first only to not make the playoffs.
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Old 02-24-2020, 05:32 AM   #87
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My guess: Palmeri + Vatanen for Bennett 1st and a 3rd.

What I want: no trades, just a coach.
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Old 02-24-2020, 06:28 AM   #88
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Fletcher wasn't afraid to shake up his team when he thought he could improve it. Just look at the Brett Hull trade to the Blues.
I dunno if I’d call that a shakeup, as we had lots of firepower. What we didn’t was a backup, that could reduce Vernons load by 30 games.

That’s what helped secure the president trophy but more so, ensure Vernon wasn’t exhausted for the playoffs.

When I think of Fletcher shakeups, I think of dispatching Nilsson and Reinhart.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:25 AM   #89
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Flames have actually been above average since Ward took over in the fancy stats. Its interested how a bad start can taint everyone's view of a team.

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Flames have actually been above average since Ward took over in the fancy stats. Its interested how a bad start can taint everyone's view of a team.

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Looks to me like an average team that has been bouncing inconsistently around the mean. More inconsistent under Peter's, but still bouncing around. Never too high and never too low at 5v5. Maybe I am missing what you are trying to show...but to me this proves what many are saying. It's an average team that does not warrant a massive all in investment...
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:42 AM   #91
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"Buy".

I mean, the Flames should pursue a hockey trade to acquire a right winger
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Can someone please explain what a “hockey” trade is?

As opposed to some sort of other trade I guess? Does it just mean no draft picks? Sorry probably a stupid question but not as convinced the question is as stupid as the expression.
Assets with term traded for assets with term. That's the core of a hockey trade. Trading from strength to address weakness. Like the Lindh9lm trade.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:47 AM   #94
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I'm guessing we do a BIG deal with NJ or the Rangers today. Both teams have multiple assets the Flames would want.

My guess is we are going big. Very big.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:53 AM   #96
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I picked sell. I would like to see if they can trade some depth (ex: Mark Jankowski) for some picks. The reason is that I think that the two strengths of this management group have been RFA re-signing and drafting. GMBT and co. have picked up strong players in the draft even in the later rounds. I want to see GMBT and co. with more picks.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:53 AM   #97
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Trading Bennett would be a mistake. He is getting better with each game. Perhaps not the star we thought he may have been but he can be a very dominate 3rd liner with the ability to jump up if needed.

I prefer to see Rinaldo in the lineup over Jankowski any night. Rinaldo lays it on the line every shift and I imagine he would be just as good of a PK guy.

I am fascinated trying to find a way to pry Brady from Ottawa and know it would cost a lot but these are guys you can go into the playoffs with and win.

Flyers to Senators
Carter Hart
Nolan Patrick

Senators to Flames
Brady Tkachuk

Flames to Flyers
Gaudreau
Cam Talbot

It seems Nolan Patrick hasn't lived up to the hype but is still a very good player who would blend in with the rebuild.
Carter Hart helps solve the Sens goaltending issue.

Flyers get their coveted Gaudreau and a goalie who can fill the Carter Hart void.

Flames have to ride Rittich out, possibly another trade for a serviceable backup on a expiring contract.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:59 AM   #98
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These are the kinds of trades I like:
  • Bob McMillan and Don Lever for Lanny McDonald.
  • Gino Cavallini, Eddy Beers and Charles Bourgeois for Joey Mullen, Rik Wilson and Terry Johnson.
  • Steve Konroyd and Richard Kromm for John Tonelli.
  • Mike Bullard, Craig Coxe and Tim Corkery for Steve Bozek, Mike Dark, Doug Gilmour and Mark Hunter.

I just want a win. Trade some of our players for someone else's better players, like Cliff Fletcher would.
Tre is a wizard, but Cliff Fletcher is the Grand Master. Makes Tre like an amateur. If Tre can pull a heist off in the 5 hours or so before the trading deadline, then I'd consider him in the ranks of Cliff Fletcher. Those were the good old days. It's pretty much a legend now, except the Flames seems to get legendary fleecing by the Leafs every time they deal with them.
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:02 AM   #99
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The Globe had a decent article today about how the Leafs real problem is the players just don't care. I feel like you could swap out the Leafs names with Flames players and the article would be exactly the same.

I really don't want the Flames to go into buy mode - the players don't deserve it. If the Flames are going to do anything it should be a trade that shakes up the core of the team. It's clear at this point that something needs to change with the team's culture.
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Agreed with many, don't want them to do anything that tinkers around the edges of this team, who don't have the grit and gumption to do much of anything.
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