[PGT] Broons 4 Flams 3

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The Flames need a better coach.

We sure need something and have for a while now.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

We sure need something and have for a while now.

Weird year. The Peters affair was a sign. Just not our year. Hope they move Hamonic for draft assets, re-sign Brodie and try again next year, boys.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by timbit

Not disagreeing with you, however, they also need better performances from their best players. Those players need to play better than the other teams best players.

That didn’t happen tonight.

Effort is appreciated. Productive performance is rewarded.

They sure do. I think a better coach could get better performances from this group of players.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

That’s a pathetic effort by a pathetic team. Because it’s the Bruins means #### all. You score 3 goals in the first 4 minutes you win the game. Anyone defending the Flames should give their head a shake. The Flames are fighting for the playoffs and you should not be celebrating mediocrity.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Longer than that. I think you're thinking of early 90s Joe, not "end of his time with the Flames" Joe.

Nieuwendyk left the Flames with 50 points in 46 games. Top twenty in scoring.

He was a first line center his entire time here.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by BigRed

Weird year. The Peters affair was a sign. Just not our year. Hope they move Hamonic for draft assets, re-sign Brodie and try again next year, boys.

Hamonic? Not many people gonna trade for a pending UFA who may not be back before end of the year.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The Flames need a better coach.

I agree, but they shouldn't need to be told some of the basic #### they fail to do.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

That’s a pathetic effort by a pathetic team. Because it’s the Bruins means #### all. You score 3 goals in the first 4 minutes you win the game. Anyone defending the Flames should give their head a shake. The Flames are fighting for the playoffs and you should not be celebrating mediocrity.

Scoring 3 goals in the first 4 minutes is only great if the other team doesn't score 2 in the first 6.

After that, 54 more minutes is a lot of hockey. You speak as if they had a 3 goal lead with 4 minutes to go.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by BigRed

Weird year. The Peters affair was a sign. Just not our year. Hope they move Hamonic for draft assets, re-sign Brodie and try again next year, boys.

No one is moving picks for an injured Hamonic who may not be ready in time for the playoffs to start.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

No one is moving picks for an injured Hamonic who may not be ready in time for the playoffs to start.

Let me rephrase then: Keep Brodie. Hamonic, whatever.

[Strange Brew]

Well I’m guessing at this point Flames feel they have little to no chance of re-signing Brodie. I actually think he gets dealt.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Did you think the Bruins played poorly? If not, it was a really close game against a great team playing well. As far as measuring sticks, I’m OK with that.

I mean, that is actually a pretty good way to look at it, because the Bruins did play very well.

But at the same time, for the Flames to completely step off the gas for the rest of the first period after going up 3-1 is very concerning because we've seen them get too comfortable with a lead way too often this season.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Exactly, which is why saying "it was the best team in the NHL so it's okay" is such an invalid excuse, because the parity in the NHL is so small that even the worst team can beat the best team any given night (the historically bad Red Wings are 2-1-0 against Boston this year)

Sometimes it's not an excuse it's just reality...they lost by one goal to the top team. To say it was embarassing or no heart ect. is stupid.

It's unfortunate that every game is this massive but if they do miss the playoffs it won't be because they lost to the Bruins by one goal in Feb.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Rando

Nieuwendyk left the Flames with 50 points in 46 games. Top twenty in scoring.

He was a first line center his entire time here.

He wasn’t when they won the cup

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I agree, but they shouldn't need to be told some of the basic #### they fail to do.

I think a better coach would challenge those players who don't do those things you're referring to start from scratch and truly earn their ice time, even if it means more 2-1 games instead of 4-3 games. It's not about telling guys to mindlessly dump and chase either. Playing the right way doesn't mean that.

There's a lack of accountability on this team, and you see it when a guy like Mike Stone leapfrogs Kylington into a top 4 role simply for being older.

[Tron_fdc]

Every time I watch a flames game I get the sense the coach has no idea what he’s doing, and the team is winning in spite of his best impression of Lloyd Christmas.

This team is lost this year.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

He wasn’t when they won the cup

Yes he was.

Both he and Gilmore were. Dougie had 85 points that year, Joe 82. Gilmore raised his game in the post season but they were both top line players. Top teams are built with multiple #1 centers, it's why this team has struggled since.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

They sure do. I think a better coach could get better performances from this group of players.

Any suggestions ?

Mine would be Darryl Sutter.

One of my favorite quotes from him.

“Players are motivated in one or both of two ways only. Positive or negative energy. I don’t care which one I need to employ. Their performance will dictate it.”

Some current players need to know why Bergeron Marchand and Pasternak excel 95 % of the games they play.

They know that their best is the only bar, every game.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Saint Troy

Who the F was on the ice leading to the first two goals? Get a bloody grip man.

Alrighty then. Too bad Tkachuk wasn't noticeable with the puck outside of the first few minutes then.

All I'm saying is: for $7M I expect him to make a play or 2 with the puck in the final 55 minutes or so. He had 2 passing options on the PP along the boards and went between his legs to turn it over and ice our best chance at tying it up. He also turned the puck over 2 or 3 times with the empty net and time running out.

I think it's fair to expect more from our top players.

[Saint Troy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Sometimes it's not an excuse it's just reality...they lost by one goal to the top team. To say it was embarassing or no heart ect. is stupid.

It's unfortunate that every game is this massive but if they do miss the playoffs it won't be because they lost to the Bruins by one goal in Feb.

They were up 3-1, and instead of keeping everyone behind the puck and making the Bruins work for space, they pinched D consistently, even giving up a breakaway. Not acceptable.