[Trade] Ducks trade Ondrej Kase to Boston for Backes (25% retained), 1st, and Axel Andersson

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I'd put my money on Colorado, but of course it's tough to predict.

I expect that is where Kovalchuk ends up.

[sureLoss]

So could look at it as a 1st to dump Backes and Axelsson (2nd 2018 57th OA) for Kase.

Could see Ducks buyout Backes in the summer which will cost them $2 million in cash.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Vansmack

I wonder if he dresses tonight for the Bruins.

Zero chance.

[Bonded]

Axel Andersson is an amazing hockey name, right up there with Greg McKegg

[Nelson]

Shoot. He was the guy I was hoping for if the Flames were gonna trade for anyone.

[HighLifeMan]

Treliving dropped the ball once again.

What a deal for Boston. Dumping Backes alone is easily worth the late 1st for them.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I don't know what the equivalent deal from the Flames even would have been.

[Royle9]

Bruins are rumored to be in on Krieder as well.. they look scary deep if that happens.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Treliving dropped the ball once again.

I am all for dumping on Tre because he hasn't done much but how did he drop the ball on this one?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Treliving dropped the ball once again.

What a deal for Boston. Dumping Backes alone is easily worth the late 1st for them.

What's the equivalent deal from the Flames.
Did you want BT to trade a 1st for Ondrej Kase?

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Why are 1st round and 2nd round picks only super valuable assets around here if we are talking about the Flames picks? Another team gives up a first and everyone starts Seinfelding the assets: "we'll really it's more like a 2nd round pick than a first...........a 3rd actually if you look at it practically"

Because the Flames could still easily end up with a top 10-15 pick. It’s a lot easier to give up 1st and 2nd rounders when they’re low and the team is good.

Remember giving up the Noah Dobson pick for a few mediocre years of Hamonic? Or all those 2nd rounders for nobodies.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What's the equivalent deal from the Flames.
Did you want BT to trade a 1st for Ondrej Kase?

If Lucic were going with him, and it were top 10 protected, I'd consider it.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What's the equivalent deal from the Flames.
Did you want BT to trade a 1st for Ondrej Kase?

Not only that but the Flames 1st is way more valuable than the Bruins 1st, barring some sort of miracle.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't know what the equivalent deal from the Flames even would have been.

1st plus Lucic plus Kylington?

[sureLoss]

Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
Also important to note: the Bruins are retaining 25 percent of Backes’ remaining contract. So the Ducks are only on the hook for about $3 M in real dollars next season on that contract.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

If Lucic were going with him, and it were top 10 protected, I'd consider it.

Sure but that's a lot different. Lucic is signed through 2022/2023 and is a tough buyout. Backes only has next season remaining and therefore can be bought out for a reasonable amount.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

If Lucic were going with him, and it were top 10 protected, I'd consider it.

Yeah, but Lucic's contract is about 3 times worse, so I doubt the Duck's would have bit on that one

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Bruins are rumored to be in on Krieder as well.. they look scary deep if that happens.

Seems the Kreider deal would be pretty hard for the Bruins to do now without a 1st.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

If Lucic were going with him, and it were top 10 protected, I'd consider it.

Lucic has more years on his contract. You'd have to give even more. Plus, I see that Boston is retaining 25%.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Because the Flames could still easily end up with a top 10-15 pick. It’s a lot easier to give up 1st and 2nd rounders when they’re low and the team is good.

Remember giving up the Noah Dobson pick for a few mediocre years of Hamonic? Or all those 2nd rounders for nobodies.

I understand that, but the point is this site will talk out of both sides of their mouths on it:

- Flames don't make this deal (which btw I don't even think would have been offered to us without a massive over payment because I'm sure the Ducks preferred out of division out of conference) and BT dropped the ball and should have been willing to part with the necessary assets to do it.

- Flames do make this deal and he's an idiot for giving up what could be a 10-15 pick in a deep draft year.

The cherry picking arguments that go on in here so that whatever does get done or doesn't get done to back up peoples desire to say BT is failing is just so painful.