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		|  02-14-2020, 12:28 AM | #1 |  
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				Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: speculating about AHL players      | 
				 At this point, which Flames FAs do you keep? 
 
			
			Here's a list of the Flames' pending free agents.
 UFA
 
 TJ Brodie
 LHS RD
 Age 29
 Current cap hit: $4,650,400
 
 Travis Hamonic
 RHS RD
 Age 29
 Current cap hit: $3,857,143
 
 Cam Talbot
 Goalie
 Age 32
 Current cap hit: $2,750,000
 
 Austin Czarnik
 RHS RW
 Age 27
 Current cap hit: $1,250,000
 
 Alan Quine
 LHS Forward
 Age 26
 Current cap hit: $735,000
 
 Buddy Robinson
 RHS RW
 Age 28
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 
 Tobias Rieder
 LHS Winger
 Age 27
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 
 Zac Rinaldo
 LHS Winger
 Age 29
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 
 Michael Stone
 RHS RD
 Age 29
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 
 Brandon Davidson
 LHS LD
 Age 28
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 
 Byron Froese
 RHS Forward
 Age 28
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 
 RFA
 
 Mark Jankowski
 LHS Centre
 Age 25
 Current cap hit: $1,675,000
 Arbitration-eligible
 Qualifying offer: $1,750,000
 
 Artyom Zagidulin
 Goalie
 Age 24
 Current cap hit: $842,500
 Arbitration-eligible
 Qualifying offer: $787,500
 
 Glenn Gawdin
 RHS Centre
 Age 22
 Current cap hit: $775,833
 Qualifying offer: $787,500
 
 Tyler Parsons
 Goalie
 Age 22
 Current cap hit: $759,167
 Qualifying offer: $735,000
 
 Jon Gillies
 Goalie
 Age 26
 Current cap hit: $750,000
 Arbitration-eligible
 Qualifying offer: $787,500
 
 Oliver Kylington
 LHS LD
 Age 22
 Current cap hit: $730,833
 Qualifying offer: $787,500
 
 Andrew Mangiapane
 LHS Winger
 Age 23
 Current cap hit: $715,000
 Arbitration-eligible
 Qualifying offer: $750,750
 
 Ryan Lomberg
 LHS LW
 Age 25
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 Arbitration-eligible
 Qualifying offer: $735,000
 
 Justin Kirkland
 LHS LW
 Age 23
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 Arbitration-eligible
 Qualifying offer: $735,000
 
 Rinat Valiev
 LHS LD
 Age 24
 Current cap hit: $700,000
 Arbitration-eligible
 Qualifying offer: $735,000
 
 Andrew Nielsen
 LHS LD
 Age 23
 Current cap hit: $697,500
 Qualifying offer: $735,000
 
 Nick Schneider
 Goalie
 Age 22
 Current cap hit: $675,000
 Qualifying offer: $735,000
 
 Here's a handy, condensed list:
 
 UFA
 
 Brodie
 Hamonic
 Talbot
 Czarnik
 Quine
 Robinson
 Rieder
 Rinaldo
 Stone
 Davidson
 Froese
 
 RFA
 
 Jankowski
 Zagidulin
 Gawdin
 Parsons
 Gillies
 Kylington
 Mangiapane
 Lomberg
 Kirkland
 Valiev
 Nielsen
 Schneider
 
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		|  02-14-2020, 12:33 AM | #2 |  
	| First round-bust 
				 
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			My take. Keepers in bold. Italics I only keep if there are no better options.
 UFA
 
 Brodie
 Hamonic
 Talbot
 Czarnik
 Quine
 Robinson
 Rieder
 Rinaldo
 Stone
 Davidson
 Froese
 
 RFA
 
 Jankowski
 Zagidulin
 Gawdin
 Parsons
 Gillies
 Kylington
 Mangiapane
 Lomberg
 Kirkland
 Valiev
 Nielsen
 Schneider
 
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		|  02-14-2020, 12:34 AM | #3 |  
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				Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: I don't belong here      | 
 
			
			Brodie, Quine, Robinson, Rinaldo, ?Stone? ...Stone depends on how the rest of the team shapes up. Not bad as a #7. Not sure he wants that position but not sure he has a choice since he didn't have much interest from other teams this past season.Probably Talbot too. I'm not so sure he wants to be #1b or #2. He has shown some good stuff this year and may get somebody to take a chance on him to be #1a or maybe he'll find a situation where he gets more games than he did this year.
 
 Jankowski, Zagidulin, Gawdin, Parson, Kylington, Mangiapne
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		|  02-14-2020, 12:35 AM | #4 |  
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				Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Calgary      | 
 
			
			Talbot, maybe Brodie.
 EDIT:
 
 As for RFAs, depends on who they sign from the European prospect pool. Do they sign Lindstrom or Svenningson or long shot Nikolaev?
 
 Definitely sign Parsons and Zagidulin
 
 Or maybe Petterson signs.
 
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		|  02-14-2020, 05:17 AM | #5 |  
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			Without knowing the term and AAV, hard to comment on the UFA’s.
 
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		|  02-14-2020, 06:30 AM | #6 |  
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			Like to keep Brodie, but i think he has priced himself out of Calgary. Talbot probably will be trying to see if he can get a starting job some where. Mangiapane and Kylington will be qualified. The rest I don't really care about.
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		|  02-14-2020, 06:53 AM | #7 |  
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			Keep Talbot.
		 
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		|  02-14-2020, 07:36 AM | #8 |  
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				Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, ON      | 
 
			
			if the money makes sense, I would resign everyone on the Flames except for these players:
 Hamonic - would prefer to trade him for a F
 Czarnik - unless he wants to play in the AHL
 Rieder - give someone else that spot
 Stone - unless he is okay with the same deal as this year
 
 I don't know enough about our Heat players so am indifferent...but would try to keep all the goalies just because.
 
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		|  02-14-2020, 08:04 AM | #9 |  
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				Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: MTL      | 
 
			
			UFA
 Brodie try to get him for a 5-year term
 Hamonic
 Talbot see if he will extend for another 2 years
 Czarnik
 Quine
 Robinson
 Rieder
 Rinaldo these three are all serviceable 4th liners or press-box sitters
 Stone
 Davidson good D depth on the farm
 Froese
 
 RFA
 
 Jankowski
 Zagidulin
 Gawdin could challenge for a bottom 6 spot next year
 Parsons should be in the AHL next year
 Gillies
 Kylington yes, but we need to offload a LHD
 Mangiapane yes, try for a 4 year term
 Lomberg great depth and a leader on the farm
 Kirkland ditto
 Valiev
 Nielsen
 Schneider
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		|  02-14-2020, 08:24 AM | #10 |  
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			Brodie really needs to be kept.  He's already been better than Giordano this season, the divide could be even greater next year.
 There's definitely some down parts of his game but his resurgence puts him in the category of ond of the most underrated top3 (top2??) pairing dmen in the league.
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		|  02-14-2020, 08:38 AM | #11 |  
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				Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Springbank      | 
 
			
			
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					Originally Posted by robertsfanatic  if the money makes sense, I would resign everyone on the Flames except for these players:
 Hamonic - would prefer to trade him for a F
 Czarnik - unless he wants to play in the AHL
 Rieder - give someone else that spot
 Stone - unless he is okay with the same deal as this year
 
 I don't know enough about our Heat players so am indifferent...but would try to keep all the goalies just because.
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I suspect Stone would be happy to sign for the same.  He's settled in Calgary with his Calgarian wife, he's not going to get a fat contract anywhere else.  
 
If you can't get a trade for Hamonic that you like (which I'm totally down for), I think you try and re-sign him for a contract at or below his current level.  I think he's still got game.
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		|  02-14-2020, 08:52 AM | #12 |  
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			I've said it before about Talbot but I have a feeling he's the guy in net for some W's during the playoffs.
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		|  02-14-2020, 08:53 AM | #13 |  
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				Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NC      | 
 
			
			It would be dumb of us to not extend Brodie.
 Talbot should also get some consideration. He and Rittich are a good tandem.
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		|  02-14-2020, 09:07 AM | #14 |  
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			Brodie should be #1. Losing a top pairing guy would be devestating to the backend, especially since Gio will be 38 next season and he should be looking to ''pass the mantle'' at some point soon. 
 I really think that his 2 poor seasons under GG were the anomalies and not the norm. In the seasons since GG left, he has been back to trending upwards like he was before. His giveaways are few and far in between and he's got a good enough skillset that he will age quite well. He's also been a loyal Flame over the years and seems like a great dude to have around.
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		|  02-14-2020, 09:43 AM | #15 |  
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				Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kalispell, Montana      | 
 
			
			Why would anyone want to move Michael Stone?  I don't get it.
		 
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		|  02-14-2020, 09:49 AM | #16 |  
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			I would try to keep Brodie but it totally depends on his asking price. I’m not sure he’s willing to play ball with all the smoke around him being trade bait before Gio’s injury. I see him going to UFA for more than the Flames can offer.
 I might hold on to Rinaldo and Stone as depth options. If Talbot is willing to sign another short-term deal for around the same dollars as he makes now I’d have no problem with that. Mangiapane’s value is a hard one to get a read on, but for $2 million or so, sure.
 
 Jankowski and Hamonic can get lost, those are deals we would regret right away. The rest, meh.
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		|  02-14-2020, 10:14 AM | #17 |  
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		|  02-14-2020, 12:39 PM | #18 |  
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				Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Calgary      | 
 
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan  Why would anyone want to move Michael Stone?  I don't get it. |  
I understand he doesn't make much salary wise but he's been absolutely dreadful every game I've seen him playing in. Maybe that's just me?
		 
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		|  02-14-2020, 01:14 PM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hi-Psi  I understand he doesn't make much salary wise but he's been absolutely dreadful every game I've seen him playing in. Maybe that's just me? |  
Nope, me too.  He has been just standing there poking his stick out while guys skate around him a lot of the time.  He was good the first two games on the trip, and sagged a lot the last two (including last night).
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		|  02-14-2020, 01:18 PM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan  Why would anyone want to move Michael Stone?  I don't get it. |  
I wouldn't , but also won't be surprised if Stone moves on his own at the end of the year.  With Giordano and Hamonic out, he's doing a pretty good job proving he can play more regularly than he has to date.  He might get an opportunity to sign with Vegas, play with his brother, and be more of regular contributor.
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