[PGT] 5-3 Kings, oh no!

[N-E-B]

I feel like my whole life the Flames have had this horrible habit of playing to the level of their opponents. Tonight was no exception.

Maybe that’s just what mediocre teams do? I don’t know. But a win tomorrow to go 3-1 on the road trip would be okay. I would be more than happy with that result.

[djsFlames]

Like it blows my mind to see an objectively strong effort to come back in that game, come over here and see people pissing red and just dumping on the team and spewing mediocre this and that.

There really is an issue on this board with some of the ultra-negative posters that seem to be just waiting to pounce with their negativity and disregard any of the positives that were definitely there.

Unfortunate result but I have faith in these boys to salvage the second of the BTB.

[Stauner]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Speaking of dictating...

Like i said, grow up

Some one says something negative about this team and you are all over it like a rash. You post like you are superior to others views

End of the day we all want to watch this team lift a stanley cup and we all have different opinions of how we do that. Losses bring out the worst in every one especially me

But this flames result just capped off a #### day for me. Footvall team lost, got laid off then come home to a flames defeat... the only way is up i guess

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by AC

Honestly, the team played pretty well I thought. At least in terms of extended times of pressure and chances. Defensively, I wasn't impressed with the first 2 goals for sure.

As I said in the GT, they simply don't have enough players that can pick a corner, beating a goalie with a shot. It really feels like this team has to work so much harder than most teams for 90% of their goals. 38 shots for should yield more goals than that. I can certainly see the appeal of Toffoli for that reason.

I’ve been saying this for a long time. This team doesn’t make scoring look easy. Outside of last season’s complete aberration, they’ve been struggling to score for a while. It’s part of the reason why they never score 5 on 3 or why backups look so good against this team. You got no one timers, no snipers, nobody who scores from a distance.

Gaudreau has a muffin. Monahan only scores in tight. Tkachuk is better around the net tipping puckst. Lindholm probably has the best shot out of all the forwards, but I’m not even sure he’s a natural scorer and if he is, he certainly can’t do it alone.

Treliving needs to rethink his overall strategy because this is what they are. They’ve been mediocre at best throughout his entire tenure and he hasn’t gained much traction since the start.

[Stauner]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Like it blows my mind to see an objectively strong effort to come back in that game, come over here and see people pissing red and just dumping on the team and spewing mediocre this and that.

There really is an issue on this board with some of the ultra-negative posters that seem to be just waiting to pounce with their negativity and disregard any of the positives that were definitely there.

Unfortunate result but I have faith in these boys to salvage the second of the BTB.

End of the day we are the better team, but we keep dropping points to teams that we should not be losing to. The best teams in the league dont do it as consistently as we do

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Like it blows my mind to see an objectively strong effort to come back in that game, come over here and see people pissing red and just dumping on the team and spewing mediocre this and that.

There really is an issue on this board with some of the ultra-negative posters that seem to be just waiting to pounce with their negativity and disregard any of the positives that were definitely there.

I have faith in these boys to salvage the second of the BTB.

They are supposed to win every game.

It was for sure a flat effort in the first. They dominated the second except for a really bad 5 minute sequence. They came on hard in the third but blew a 5 on 3, and didn’t crush the final minute with the EN. I thought Cal Petersen played a great game and it wasn’t just because the Flames made him look good.

The Flames were playing a guy in his very first game, along with a rookie D, a 7th D in Stone and without their Norris winning captain. It wasn’t the horrible game people say. It wasn’t great, but it wasn’t the Ottawa or Montreal effort either.

[the2bears]

Is there a team worse than the Flames with a 5-3 PP? I doubt it.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I've seen some talk that Nino Niederreiter might be available in Carolina... I wonder if Treliving might look at that.

The way he's playing, he could certainly use a change of scenery.

There has to be some red flags there. No mystery boxes.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Stauner

Like i said, grow up

Some one says something negative about this team and you are all over it like a rash. You post like you are superior to others views

End of the day we all want to watch this team lift a stanley cup and we all have different opinions of how we do that. Losses bring out the worst in every one especially me

But this flames result just capped off a #### day for me. Footvall team lost, got laid off then come home to a flames defeat... the only way is up i guess

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

There has to be some red flags there. No mystery boxes.

If you want players without red flags, I suggest you try trading for Nathan MacKinnon or David Pastrnak.

[dissentowner]

I am not even going to read this thread because the doomsayers will be here in droves and the hyperbole will be extreme. Not sure why they changed the system back to chip and chase but it still doesnt work. The last two games they were carrying the puck in and making crisp passes, tonight they were back to Brent Sutter hockey. Beat the Ducks tmrw, still lots of games to go but for the love of Christ don't play chip and chase!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Stauner

Like i said, grow up

Some one says something negative about this team and you are all over it like a rash. You post like you are superior to others views

End of the day we all want to watch this team lift a stanley cup and we all have different opinions of how we do that. Losses bring out the worst in every one especially me

But this flames result just capped off a #### day for me. Footvall team lost, got laid off then come home to a flames defeat... the only way is up i guess

I’m all grown up, thanks. I find over the top whining less grown up I guess, especially when the wins are less celebrated. And if people don’t like the criticism, they are free to argue the point. It’s not dictating content to criticize.

Sorry for your day. I hope tomorrow is better for you.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I’ve been saying this for a long time. This team doesn’t make scoring look easy. Outside of last season’s complete aberration, they’ve been struggling to score for a while. It’s part of the reason why they never score 5 on 3 or why backups look so good against this team. You got no one timers, no snipers, nobody who scores from a distance.

Gaudreau has a muffin. Monahan only scores in tight. Tkachuk is better around the net tipping puckst. Lindholm probably has the best shot out of all the forwards, but I’m not even sure he’s a natural scorer and if he is, he certainly can’t do it alone.

Treliving needs to rethink his overall strategy because this is what they are. They’ve been mediocre at best throughout his entire tenure and he hasn’t gained much traction since the start.

username checks out

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Is there a team worse than the Flames with a 5-3 PP? I doubt it.

Gaskal - what’s their issue? you are the PP guru.

[Stauner]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I’m all grown up, thanks. I find over the top whining less grown up I guess, especially when the wins are less celebrated. And if people don’t like the criticism, they are free to argue the point. It’s not dictating content to criticize.

Sorry for your day. I hope tomorrow is better for you.

Thanks , ps im down for an argument

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If you want players without red flags, I suggest you try trading for Nathan MacKinnon or David Pastrnak.

Surely there’s 400 other active forwards to choose from over a guy who has just recently been moved for a change of scenery situation.

[Racki]

That was pretty much what we expected, no?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Surely there’s 400 other active forwards to choose from over a guy who has just recently been moved for a change of scenery situation.

But the last time he was traded he put up 30 points in 33 games... and then Carolina went and signed a bunch of guys in free agency and now his ice time is down dramatically from 18:17 to 14:58...

I think this is a prime opportunity and Treliving should be all over it

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Gaskal - what’s their issue? you are the PP guru.

Did you watch it?

LA stayed tight, Flames wasted time around the perimeter looking for something perfect.

This is one time I think you need to get greasy because if you draw 2 of the 3, and knock the puck to your other guys, you are at an advantage

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I’ve been saying this for a long time. This team doesn’t make scoring look easy. Outside of last season’s complete aberration, they’ve been struggling to score for a while. It’s part of the reason why they never score 5 on 3 or why backups look so good against this team. You got no one timers, no snipers, nobody who scores from a distance.

Gaudreau has a muffin. Monahan only scores in tight. Tkachuk is better around the net tipping puckst. Lindholm probably has the best shot out of all the forwards, but I’m not even sure he’s a natural scorer and if he is, he certainly can’t do it alone.

Treliving needs to rethink his overall strategy because this is what they are. They’ve been mediocre at best throughout his entire tenure and he hasn’t gained much traction since the start.

I’m not sure how Monahan and Gaudreau’s style is on Treliving. He picked Tkachuk (no brainer) and got the guy you say is the best shooter (which is likely true). Monahan’s outside shot isn’t bad - it’s not going to overpower a goalie but his release is good. Really the best wrister on the team has belonged to Gio (or Hamilton when he was here).

Aside from tanking and getting a MacKinnon or McDavid, I’m not sure what the strategy can be. I suppose I would say they should focus a little more on speed - the core players aren’t very fast - really only Dube and maybe Reider can be described as fast out of all the fwds.