[Trade] Wild trade Zucker to Pens for Galchenyuk, 2020 1st, Addison

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

That's equivalent to Bennett + 2020 1st/2020 2nd + Kylington.

Not sure I would have paid that price for Zucker.

I'm sure befuddled by the fascination with him here. LHS, almost always LW IIRC, smallish, scores at a historic rate like Backlund at best. 4 goals in 31 PO games.

Don't get fooled if he scores a few more than usual there. I would too, playing with Crosby.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

That's equivalent to Bennett + 2020 1st/2020 2nd + Kylington.

Not sure I would have paid that price for Zucker.

I don’t think that is the equivalent. Galchenyuk is a UFA where Bennett has a year left on his deal and is then RFA. Addison is a prospect and Kylington is a NHL player. I guess that is why you change the 1st to maybe a 2nd?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don’t think that is the equivalent. Galchenyuk is a UFA where Bennett has a year left on his deal and is then RFA. Addison is a prospect and Kylington is a NHL player. I guess that is why you change the 1st to maybe a 2nd?

I consider Galchenyuk and Bennett the same regardless of free agency status. Galchenyuk, while a disappointment, has had a much better career thus far than Bennett. Addison is still a great prospect, hence why I changed the 1st to a conditional 2nd/1st depending on playoff performance. But, Kylington is much better at this point. So, I suppose that offsets the difference between Bennett and Galchenyuk.

Regardless, I would be pretty pissed if the Flames had done this.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I consider Galchenyuk and Bennett the same regardless of free agency status. Galchenyuk, while a disappointment, has had a much better career thus far than Bennett. Addison is still a great prospect, hence why I changed the 1st to a conditional 2nd/1st depending on playoff performance. But, Kylington is much better at this point. So, I suppose that offsets the difference between Bennett and Galchenyuk.

Regardless, I would be pretty pissed if the Flames had done this.

Agreed with the overall point.

Definitely disagree with the Bennett-Galchenyuk comparison as if that trade went down one for one it would have been a brutal deal for Calgary. I get Galchenyuk had a 30 goal season but has had multiple off ice issues and is now on his 4th team in less than 3 years.

Imo he was a salary dump in this deal and I see his value closer to Frolik’s as he will probably get traded for a 3-5th round pick in 2 weeks unless he had a renaissance in Minny

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm sure befuddled by the fascination with him here. LHS, almost always LW IIRC, smallish, scores at a historic rate like Backlund at best. 4 goals in 31 PO games.

Don't get fooled if he scores a few more than usual there. I would too, playing with Crosby.

I don't watch the Wild play hockey much if at all, but I don't quite get the appeal either. But it's not just here, look at what the Pens gave up.

To me that shows the price of acquiring coveted players with term on their contract. That's why I'm not necessarily against trading for an expiring contract and work on signing him if it works out at all.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Agreed with the overall point.

Definitely disagree with the Bennett-Galchenyuk comparison as if that trade went down one for one it would have been a brutal deal for Calgary. I get Galchenyuk had a 30 goal season but has had multiple off ice issues and is now on his 4th team in less than 3 years.

Imo he was a salary dump in this deal and I see his value closer to Frolik’s as he will probably get traded for a 3-5th round pick in 2 weeks unless he had a renaissance in Minny

Agree to disagree.

I do think we can agree that this was too hefty of a price for Calgary.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Agreed with the overall point.

Definitely disagree with the Bennett-Galchenyuk comparison as if that trade went down one for one it would have been a brutal deal for Calgary. I get Galchenyuk had a 30 goal season but has had multiple off ice issues and is now on his 4th team in less than 3 years.

Imo he was a salary dump in this deal and I see his value closer to Frolik’s as he will probably get traded for a 3-5th round pick in 2 weeks unless he had a renaissance in Minny

Bennett's value not too much different than this IMO.

I suppose he hasn't had his "change of scenery" yet, so it could be a bit higher.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Bennett's value not too much different than this IMO.

I suppose he hasn't had his "change of scenery" yet, so it could be a bit higher.

If you are right then there is no way the Flames trade Bennett. I still think a former top 5 pick who is only 23 and can play with some grit is worth significantly more than a 3rd-5th round pick.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Dumbas name has been in the rumor mill for less than two weeks now. Guerins been GM for a while.

I was insinuating, based on our rumored offering for Zucker in comparison to what the Penguins paid, that we would have had enough to make an offer for Dumba had Fenton still been the GM.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Galchenyuk... yikes man. What happened to your career? Bouncing around quite a bit and pretty underperforming from what his trajectory once was.

He was top ten in scoring and wrecked his knee in Dec 2016, then his career fell off a cliff. Not sure if he just didn't want to work hard enough to get his knee back to where it should be or if he was just more interested in life off the ice.

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Galchenyuk is UFA. Should we rent him?

Nope. Stay away.

[Anduril]

Don't see any chance Galchenyuk gets moved. Doubt many teams are eager to pony up much and Minnesota might be content to just see how he fits and potentially get a cost effective if things turn out positively.

[automaton 3]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Make it three of us

Another Canes fan checking in. Addison is a heck of a player, let alone the Pens adding a 1st.

Glad the Flames didn't give up a package like that.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Make it three of us

Four Five (after seeing the above post)

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Anduril

Don't see any chance Galchenyuk gets moved. Doubt many teams are eager to pony up much and Minnesota might be content to just see how he fits and potentially get a cost effective if things turn out positively.

I feel like taking Galchenyuk was like "Sure, we'll take him but you have to sweeten the pot"

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

Another Canes fan checking in. Addison is a heck of a player, let alone the Pens adding a 1st.

Glad the Flames didn't give up a package like that.

What do y'all think of Cozens?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

What do y'all think of Cozens?

He's dreamy.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

What do y'all think of Cozens?

Originally Posted by Buff

He's dreamy.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Buff

I feel like taking Galchenyuk was like "Sure, we'll take him but you have to sweeten the pot"

I think he was a cap dump too that only increased the return.

[1qqaaz]

I would much much rather have JT Miller for what the Canucks paid, which is about the same.

[Flash Walken]

Missing out on Zucker with salary retained for a 2019 1st round pick (26th overall) and Frolik is an all-time fumble for the Flames.

Based on what the flames were being asked to give up, it's worse than missing out on Ben Bishop because Ken King was on a plane.

Absolutely atrocious.