I've said it a few times now but this core needs a shakeup.
That was my first game at the dome this season. Good ####ng grief that was terrible. Backhand sauce passes...turnover. Cute little drop passes...turnover. Half assed attempt at taking your man...odd man rush. I was legit appalled at what I was seeing. Just going through the motions out playing some shinny with the boys on a Tuesday night. Ugh what a gross gross effort.
That was pathetic, and I hope Trelving thinks that as well. Can't do much right now, as this is when ####ty trades are made. But this off season I sincerely hope there's some major changes. This core has had plenty of time, chances, and coaches to establish themselves as a threat; let alone be a contender.
I know it was a division winning team last year and a top team in the league overall. However, that team started to fade after the all star break, lost in 5 in round 1, and has been very average at best this year.
Time for something new.
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For all you coach mongers its time to get off that train. We have been changing coaches over and over and makes no difference. There is a players issue and that falls on the manager. We only have a couple better players up front and they are not rocking. Move some players, draft some good players and build the team.
For all you coach mongers its time to get off that train. We have been changing coaches over and over and makes no difference. There is a players issue and that falls on the manager. We only have a couple better players up front and they are not rocking. Move some players, draft some good players and build the team.
We keep hiring crappy, cheap coaches.
All coaches are not created equally.
This all falls on the manager.
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For all you coach mongers its time to get off that train. We have been changing coaches over and over and makes no difference. There is a players issue and that falls on the manager. We only have a couple better players up front and they are not rocking. Move some players, draft some good players and build the team.
I disagree,
Look at Quenneville in Florida, he's squeezing out the most of that team and they're playing some damn good hockey. Coaches can make a world of difference.
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Look at Quenneville in Florida, he's squeezing out the most of that team and they're playing some damn good hockey. Coaches can make a world of difference.
Agreed - and look at Torts and what he’s getting out of the Jackets. Meanwhile, our last 3 head coaches are all no longer head coaches and will likely never be head coaches in this league again.
It’s an absolute joke.
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How is it not obvious to you how flawed this argument is? You could bring in 1000 coaches and if they are all no good the team will very likely fail. This has been proven on championship teams, they floundered under a bad coach then went on to win more Cups under a good coach.
Sid Crosby saw his numbers tank under Johnston, Crosby faithfully played the system the coach wanted. BTW no one is saying a coach will fix everything.
I’m a pretty big believer, especially these days when most teams play a very similar style, that good teams breed good coaches, and not the other way around. My point wasn’t that the Flames don’t need a good coach, my point was that I don’t think hiring a good coach is going to change anything unless significant changes to the on-ice personnel comes along with it.
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I’m a pretty big believer, especially these days when most teams play a very similar style, that good teams breed good coaches, and not the other way around. My point wasn’t that the Flames don’t need a good coach, my point was that I don’t think hiring a good coach is going to change anything unless significant changes to the on-ice personnel comes along with it.
This is in staggeringly complete disagreement with the post you responded to that addressed Crosby and team under bad coach vs good.
And then there are the Blues last year.
Maybe I misunderstand you, but coaches actually do contribute to team success.
Guy was a losing coach for 80% of his coaching resume.
They may have paid him a lot to be here, but I don't think his coaching chops matched his salary.
Same class as GG and possibly Ward.
I think a new coach is needed. I doubt its going to happen during the year. I don’t see Ward as a choice by Treliving as a permanent replacement - which may be why the players aren’t performing.
BTW, losing coach for 80% of his coaching career describes Gallant as well.
