[PGT] Edmonton Oilers lose the Stanley Cup | Flames 4 - Oilers 3 (SO)

[GioforPM]

Geez, even if Gio was beat and instinctively made a move to try and adjust or at least slow McDavid that's a play that happens almost every game and you don't see people crying about it.

If McDavid was going that fast, and if was a knee on knee, he'd be hurt, and he wasn't.

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I didn't say it was dirty. I said it was reckless.

I don't think Giordano is purposely trying to injure guys, but he is definitely doing it and doesn't seem to be learning from his mistakes.

If it's a mistake to make guys think twice about cruising through the slot with your head down when Gio is on the ice, I hope Mark never learns.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by timbit

Clean hard body checks ( see Aho) that result in an injury are perfectly acceptable in the NHL. Part of the game.

I suspect the only reason everyone is making Aho the hill to die on is that its the only defensible play. It's clearly the play that is the most incidental.

You think the other plays were acceptable as well?

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I didn't say it was dirty. I said it was reckless.

I don't think Giordano is purposely trying to injure guys, but he is definitely doing it and doesn't seem to be learning from his mistakes.

Is he supposed to actively move out of the way? That's the only way he can avoid contact there because he's just planted and Aho is coasting and staring at the ice.

Gio has had a couple of cheap hits in his career but that's not one.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I suspect the only reason everyone is making Aho the hill to die on is that its the only defensible play. It's clearly the play that is the most incidental.

You think the other plays were acceptable as well?

The play on McDavid certainly was. You can't knee someone with the back of your knee, and if a collision did occur, it would be knee (McDavid) on side of knee (Gio), ending in Gio being the one hurt. It's a good thing it was a hipcheck.

[Robbob]

The injury to Aho was a concussion as well as lower body. Missed 4 games.

I still don't see anything wrong with the McDavid thing. Was a 2 min penalty. That subtle interference play happens a lot.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I suspect the only reason everyone is making Aho the hill to die on is that its the only defensible play. It's clearly the play that is the most incidental.

You think the other plays were acceptable as well?

Were you not the poster who brought up the “Reckless” Gio body check on AHO, as well as McDavid ?

You are the one “ dying on the hill”.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I didn't say it was dirty. I said it was reckless.

I don't think Giordano is purposely trying to injure guys, but he is definitely doing it and doesn't seem to be learning from his mistakes.

You are 100% wrong on this one Oil Stain. Good solid hockey hit, Giordano was barely moving...the reckless player here was Aho.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Robbob

The injury to Aho was a concussion as well as lower body. Missed 4 games.

I still don't see anything wrong with the McDavid thing. Was a 2 min penalty. That play subtle interference play happens a lot.

The check from behind on Tkachuk into the boards was far worse. Also not called, because that would have salted a reg win for Calgary at that point.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Seems the new narrative around the league is to be outraged when the Flames land or try to land hits.

[868904]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The check from behind on Tkachuk into the boards was far worse. Also not called, because that would have salted a reg win for Calgary at that point.

Hey don't forget the 10 free punches to the head of Tkachuk by Kassian.

But hey, concussions are not a problem in hockey.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I suspect the only reason everyone is making Aho the hill to die on is that its the only defensible play...

Right. And in so doing it completely invalidates your exaggerated claim...

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Well he's injured 4-5 opposing players in the last few years now on reckless plays...

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by timbit

Clean hard body checks ( see Aho) that result in an injury are perfectly acceptable in the NHL. Part of the game.

ALso, one must keep in mind that hockey moves really fast sometimes.

Take yesterday for example. Giordano is in a position, sees McDavid is going to hit him, tries to pull his leg away (certainly not toward McDavid), but it all happens so fast, and he can’t predict exactly what McDavid is going to do. McDavid trips over Gio’s foot. it happens, its a 2 minute minor At most - and that’s hockey.

We can see from the slo mo that its certainly not Knee on Knee, but when evaluating a hit like that, you have to watch it in real time. In real time, thinking that is could in any way be intentional is absurd. If it was MUCH slower, you could argue that Gio left his foot out on purpose, but at game speed, there is no such arguement.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

No. It's because of this nonsense:

Nevermind. You just want to fight.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Has he or has he not injured these players?

He has. But has he done so with his "recklessness"?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Nevermind. You just want to fight.

No. I want to correct the record.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

He has. But has he done so with his "recklessness"?

Yes. He has.

[Enoch Root]

not reckless

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

lol



Big two points last night.

Except we weren't talking about the hit last night, so I don't know what you're talking about. You tried though, and remember trying is the first step to failure.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Nevermind. You just want to fight.

No. We just want to have a debate.

From your standpoint, come up with better substance which will lead to a better argument.