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Old 01-22-2020, 11:57 AM   #1381
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Ok I was replying to why the “hockey world” (in your words) is flipping on this. People like seeing jerks get what’s coming to them.
Kassian hasn’t been a cheap shot, head hunting jerk his whole career?
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I like this line of thinking actually. This means Draisaitl should get his ass kicked for slewfooting Tkachuk last year. Or his elbow on Krug.

When's this tussle going to happen?

Draisaitl is no stranger to dangerous hits here either. How come he doesn't fight? I mean, according to the "code" he should have at least 2 beatings to his name.....why has he never dropped the gloves? Or does the "code" not apply for some reason?

Maybe because your whole argument is ridiculous?

Tkachuk's hits on Kassian are CLEAN. Why is it so hard for people to understand this? Why should he have to fight for clean hits? Is this the new norm? Or should we all accept that fighting is being phased out of the game, and if you want retribution and a bunch of mindless idiots running their mouths on TV go watch UFC.

That last game, Bennett hit him and he threw the elbow up into Bennett, this fake tough guy should have had his face caved in by Bennett, as in all their stupid logic.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:19 PM   #1383
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I like this line of thinking actually. This means Draisaitl should get his ass kicked for slewfooting Tkachuk last year. Or his elbow on Krug.

When's this tussle going to happen?

Draisaitl is no stranger to dangerous hits here either. How come he doesn't fight? I mean, according to the "code" he should have at least 2 beatings to his name.....why has he never dropped the gloves? Or does the "code" not apply for some reason?

Maybe because your whole argument is ridiculous?

Tkachuk's hits on Kassian are CLEAN. Why is it so hard for people to understand this? Why should he have to fight for clean hits? Is this the new norm? Or should we all accept that fighting is being phased out of the game, and if you want retribution and a bunch of mindless idiots running their mouths on TV go watch UFC.
Oh man, I’m out. I was responding to a post about someone calling out “the hockey world” for taking one stance on bullying and then flipping. Where I’m saying a lot of people view him as dirty and having disrespect for other players.

I never said anything about the “code”
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:24 PM   #1384
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I get your post and understand where you’re coming from. However the majority of the Hockey world sees Tkachuk doing his slewfoots, .
This is where it gets me with Oiler fans. Draisaitl gave a clear slewfoot to Tkachuk during the first BOA last year. The next scrum he was on the ice Tkachuk went at him and challenged him in the scrum and Drai wanted nothing to do with it. Kassian attacked Tkachuk for face-washing McDavid and that is when the whole turtle thing started which made no sense to me.

I admit what Tkachuk did in the last game warrants the turtle talk a little more because he targeted Kassian with huge hits and didn’t answer the bell (even though he was attacked and not squared up).

I honestly think Drai needs to be the guy to stand up and fight Tkachuk.
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I’d be embarrassed if I were an Oiler fan. Not even Wayne Gretzky whined this much and for this long after taking a legal check. I think it’s the realization that Kassian really isn’t that tough and Tkachuk really isn’t intimidated by him that’s proven too much for their delicate egos.
Yet another example of why E=NG
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:37 PM   #1386
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Its funny, because when you talk about the cheap shot artists up North, Drai and his slew foots and Elbows, Kassian the king of dirty hits. McDavid with his cheap a$$ punk cross check from behind and Kassian again attack Tkachuk from behind like the gutless coward that he is, You didn't see anywhere close to the level of obssession and outrage from the media or the fans, and the demanding of injuries and retribution.


I guess it shows what kind of fanbase follows that team up there. The Oiler fanbase and their media need to grow the frack up.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:39 PM   #1387
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I’d be embarrassed if I were an Oiler fan. Not even Wayne Gretzky whined this much and for this long after taking a legal check. I think it’s the realization that Kassian really isn’t that tough and Tkachuk really isn’t intimidated by him that’s proven too much for their delicate egos.
Yet another example of why E=NG
Part of it is that Kassian is just so hitable. He suddenly thinks he is a star player and is going into the danger areas, but he lacks the awareness and speed that most offensive players have. Like Tkachuk said, if he doesn't want to get hit, then stay off the tracks. Tkachuk exposed him and his major weakness and I think that cut deep.

All the hits he received from Tkachuk were easy pickins'. Hitting guys like Draistl, McDavid and Hopkins is a little more challenging because they are players that know what they are doing.

Kassian should do what he does best and just let the more skilled players bank pucks off of him.
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I’m guessing MT fights Kassian next game.

MT has been geared towards being a professional hockey player his whole life, and has grown up with NHLers as his role models and surrogate older brothers. Many of them enforcers.
Kassian’s path? Let’s just say it has been different and leave it at that.

MT has a multi-year NHL all-star, 500 goal, 1000 point scoring father teaching how to navigate softballs like Kassian. MT also has a 6’3, 210 lb, 4th overall pick brother who he’s been competing with his whole life, who has just a tad more intelligence and street smarts than the oft-stunned Kassian. Kassian has David Staples, Kevin “Ferklund” Bieksa and Ryan the Rat Kessler. (Sidebar: How fitting is it that two of the biggest trashcans the NHL has seen in a while have saddled up to Edmonton - despite never playing there - and Edmonton, its fans and its media have saddled right back).

MT has legally and spectacularly exploited Kassian’s lack of ability to both think and adapt on the ice, not once but three times in the same game, to win the most important game of each team’s season.
Kassian has a picture of an actual horse collar that I snail-mailed to the Edmonton Oilers offices the other day.

So I hope MT takes on Kassian and puts him on his *** without even throwing a punch. Just to put a bow on this buffoon and his lack of ability to think.

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Old 01-22-2020, 12:57 PM   #1389
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Ya Tkachuk doesn't need to fight Kassian next game. Just get the W.
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Old 01-22-2020, 01:00 PM   #1390
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What "slowfoots" has Tkachuk delivered in his career BTW? I know Oiler fans say he got Davidson in Tkachuk's 1st NHL game with one. Have there been any other ones?

And what does "hitting a player off the ice" refer to?

Again, it's quite comical that Draisaitl has more recently slewfoot, speared, and elbowed players.
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Old 01-22-2020, 01:03 PM   #1391
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This is where it gets me with Oiler fans. Draisaitl gave a clear slewfoot to Tkachuk during the first BOA last year. The next scrum he was on the ice Tkachuk went at him and challenged him in the scrum and Drai wanted nothing to do with it. Kassian attacked Tkachuk for face-washing McDavid and that is when the whole turtle thing started which made no sense to me.

I admit what Tkachuk did in the last game warrants the turtle talk a little more because he targeted Kassian with huge hits and didn’t answer the bell (even though he was attacked and not squared up).

I honestly think Drai needs to be the guy to stand up and fight Tkachuk.
You are forgetting that the McDavid face wash was an immediate reaction to McDavid wrestling Backlund to the ice for yup, another non penalized and clean hit.

Basically you aren’t allowed to hit Oilers.

So after that face wash, Kassian attacked Tkachuck off a faceoff getting free punches in. How Kassian didn’t get a suspension for THAT incident is beyond me. Kassian didn’t even get hit that game. Of course Tkachuk has an axe to grind with him and that’s why he hit him 3 times.
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Let's play a game with the tough Oilers

No matter who's on the ice, every time a hit is thrown someone has to answer the bell against the toughest guy on the ice
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You are forgetting that the McDavid face wash was an immediate reaction to McDavid wrestling Backlund to the ice for yup, another non penalized and clean hit.

Basically you aren’t allowed to hit Oilers.

So after that face wash, Kassian attacked Tkachuck off a faceoff getting free punches in. How Kassian didn’t get a suspension for THAT incident is beyond me. Kassian didn’t even get hit that game. Of course Tkachuk has an axe to grind with him and that’s why he hit him 3 times.
Tkachuk drew 5 minor penalties in 2 incidents from Kassian. Tkachuk knows he has that caveman wrapped around his finger.

Coach Tippett: I wish Kassian just took a number instead of costing his team an important game.

Kassian: Hurr durr, I'd do it again too!
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Tkachuk drew 5 minor penalties in 2 incidents from Kassian. Tkachuk knows he has that caveman wrapped around his finger.

Coach Tippett: I wish Kassian just took a number instead of costing his team an important game.

Kassian: Hurr durr, I'd do it again too!
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This is the stuff that's a reach to me.

The NHL in a detailed ruling called it a clean hit. Guys like Bob McKenzie and Chris Johnson, and Ken Campbell have come out calling it clean.

Two ex Canucks that played the game the same way aren't much of a source. Either are a bunch of ex players with ties to Edmonton.

This is a gray area thing, but this need to say "the rest of the world agrees with me" stuff has to stop. It's silly. Edmonton media have been combing the hockey world looking for quotes. Maybe, just maybe if Calgary media was equally obsessed with the issue they'd be asking questions and only publishing the quotes that match their narrative.

I see both sides of this ... but the everyone agrees with us when a player got horse collared from behind on hits that the league deemed as clean is insane.
What's wrong with saying that most neutral observers are taking Kassian's side?

Flames fans themselves love to see players on their team get retribution.

Earlier on this season when Lucic dropped Sherwood with a gloved punch the fans that celebrated it far outweighed the ones that called Lucic out on those actions.

There certainly wasn't an ongoing debate on CP with strong opponents of the "code" and there wasn't any real defense of Sherwood's actions despite poking the goalie being a common hockey play that is rarely penalized.

The circling of the wagons around Tkachuk is an emotional response that wouldn't happen if this was two neutral teams involved.

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Tkachuk drew 5 minor penalties in 2 incidents from Kassian. Tkachuk knows he has that caveman wrapped around his finger.

Coach Tippett: I wish Kassian just took a number instead of costing his team an important game.

Kassian: Hurr durr, I'd do it again too!
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What "slowfoots" has Tkachuk delivered in his career BTW? I know Oiler fans say he got Davidson in Tkachuk's 1st NHL game with one. Have there been any other ones?

And what does "hitting a player off the ice" refer to?

Again, it's quite comical that Draisaitl has more recently slewfoot, speared, and elbowed players.
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Ok thanks. So one other slewfoot, while was also in his rookie season. My point being that it seems from my perspective Tkachuk has taken that out of his game, much like the embellishment I feel he got away with in his first year or 2.

I would also say again, Draisaitl's slewfoot on Tkachuk was quite a bit more violent and dirty as it happened with speed, and it also occurred much more recently.

It's funny that the video you linked to skips past the Draisaitl slewfoot. He just states that Tkachuk was targeting McDavid and Draisaitl, even though everything started with Draisaitl's penalized slewfoot.


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Tkachuk drew 5 minor penalties in 2 incidents from Kassian. Tkachuk knows he has that caveman wrapped around his finger.

Coach Tippett: I wish Kassian just took a number instead of costing his team an important game.

Kassian: Hurr durr, I'd do it again too!
The fact that the inmates run the Asylum up North isnt anything new.

Are they mandated by the League to employ a coach? There doesnt seem much point for the Oilers, nobody listens to whoever the hell it is this week anyways.
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What's wrong with saying that most neutral observers are taking Kassian's side?

Flames fans themselves love to see players on their team get retribution.

Earlier on this season when Lucic dropped Sherwood with a gloved punch the fans that celebrated it far outweighed the ones that called Lucic out on those actions.

There certainly wasn't an ongoing debate on CP with strong opponents of the "code" and there wasn't any real defense of Sherwood's actions despite poking the goalie being a common hockey play that is rarely penalized.

The circling of the wagons around Tkachuk is an emotional response that wouldn't happen if this was two neutral teams involved.
Even I think the Lucic punch was a little excessive. At least the force he put into it. But that is miles away from what Kassian did. One complaint was that Sherwood didn't defend himself and just stood there like a moron. Thachuk couldn't defend himself because McDerpy had just given him a running crosscheck from behind and boarded Tkachuk, just before Kassian horse-collared him from behind.
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