Underpaid careers

For those that are interested:

http://www.calgarypolice.ca/recruiti...y_benefits.htm

$47 grand to start. In an age when the city can't even keep up to atrition, it's no wonder people aren't applying in droves.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by redforever

First of all, get your facts straight. Teachers might have this much time away from the place that they work, BUT, they are not paid for the summer months that they are off.

Christmas and Easter holidays are covered by their contract, the summer months of July and August are not. And now adays, many businesses, outside of retail etc, have almost as much time off over Christmas and Easter as teachers do.

Teachers do however have their remuneration averaged and paid over 12 months, but they are not actually paid for those 2 months. In other words, their 10 month salary is divided by 12 months so that they receive a balanced income over the year.

Yes they do get paid for the summer. They get paid every two weeks, all year, like everyone else. But thanks for being snotty about it anyhow.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

12 weeks off a year and one of the sweetest pension plans on god's green earth? Plus they get to go on strike every four years. Bunch of damn slackers if you ask me! (My brother is a teacher by the way )

Originally Posted by MJK

Well the pension plan sucks here and those weeks off are needed after teaching 8-3 each day, going home and correcting crap all night long. makes for some long days and it is only one of a handful of jobs where you have to take work home with you on a constant basis.

Ontario teachers have a kick-ass pensions. Their pension plan holds $96 Billion in assets including Cadillac-Fairview. Ontario Teachers make as much (or more) after they retire than while teaching.

[Buff]

Nurses are overpaid.

Physical Therapists are underpaid.

At least in the Chinook Health region. My wife had seven years of school to become a Physical Therapist and her max pay is $10,000 less per year than her sister, an LPN, who only had 2 years of schooling. RNs will make even more than an LPN and the LPNs are the nurses who do all the work. My sister-in-law agrees with me that she is overpaid but she needs all she gets so she won't complain about it.

[MJK]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

Yes they do get paid for the summer. They get paid every two weeks, all year, like everyone else. But thanks for being snotty about it anyhow.

Actually, although a paycheque comes in during the summer, that money has been held back every paycheque while working during the year. So teachers do not get paid for being off in the summer.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by MJK

Actually, although a paycheque comes in during the summer, that money has been held back every paycheque while working during the year. So teachers do not get paid for being off in the summer.

But don't make it sound like they simply don't get paid in July and August. And cry me a river for all the teachers out there! They are hardly underpaid!!

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

For those that are interested:

http://www.calgarypolice.ca/recruiti...y_benefits.htm

$47 grand to start. In an age when the city can't even keep up to atrition, it's no wonder people aren't applying in droves.

To put things in perspective for other emergency workers...

EMT's (one year of schooling, plus EMR) start at $21.96 (and can work there way up to a cap of $26.70)....so for a forty two hour work week (which is average for them) their annual wage ranges from $47,000 - $59,000 gross.

Paramedics (Two years of schooling plus EMT, plus EMR) start at $23.74 (up to $30.26)...$51,000 - $67,000 annually.

Firefighters, like CPS work on a five year class...

edit: stupid formatting....here's a link...first year firefighters start at a whopping $19.28 per hour and will roughly make $42,000 annually.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by MJK

Actually, although a paycheque comes in during the summer, that money has been held back every paycheque while working during the year. So teachers do not get paid for being off in the summer.

You could come work in the OilSands in the summer than. 2 months in Fort Mac, you could probably make an extra 25k a year and fix that.

And don't tell my you don't have tonnes of Newfy buddies there who could stay with!

[boobaloo]

Originally Posted by Buff

Nurses are overpaid.

Physical Therapists are underpaid.

At least in the Chinook Health region. My wife had seven years of school to become a Physical Therapist and her max pay is $10,000 less per year than her sister, an LPN, who only had 2 years of schooling. RNs will make even more than an LPN and the LPNs are the nurses who do all the work. My sister-in-law agrees with me that she is overpaid but she needs all she gets so she won't complain about it.

As a physical therapist, how many $hitty arses does she have to clean? To me, RN and LPN are the most thankless, underpaid occupations of all, particularly LPN. LPN gets to do all the crappy jobs the RN doesn't want to do, and the job is back-breaking. I think your S-I-L is just being kind to you by agreeing that she's overpaid. And I am a professional health care worker myself.

[MJK]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

But don't make it sound like they simply don't get paid in July and August. And cry me a river for all the teachers out there! They are hardly underpaid!!

That's your opinion.

Teachers get paid a salary for the days they work during the year that does NOT include the summer. It is actually the choice of the teacher to have a portion of every cheque gets held back so in reality, not every teacher gets paid during the summer. Is that too hard to understand?

But thanks for being snotty about it anyhow.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by MJK

That's your opinion.

Teachers get paid a salary for the days they work during the year that does NOT include the summer. It is actually the choice of the teacher to have a portion of every cheque gets held back so in reality, not every teacher gets paid during the summer. Is that too hard to understand?

But thanks for being snotty about it anyhow.

Haha! Whatever. Maybe its different here in Ontario. Like I said, my brother is a teacher. Both of my neighbours are teachers as well and all of them are FAR from underpaid. I'll try to control my snottiness.

Oh ya, my cousins wife is a teacher in Calgary as well. Have never heard her complain about the pay either.

[MJK]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

Haha! Whatever. Maybe its different here in Ontario. Like I said, my brother is a teacher. Both of my neighbours are teachers as well and all of them are FAR from underpaid. I'll try to control my snottiness.

Oh ya, my cousins wife is a teacher in Calgary as well. Have never heard her complain about the pay either.

There are actually more provinces in Canada than Ontario, imagine that!

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by MJK

There are actually more provinces in Canada than Ontario, imagine that!

Haha! Wow. Did I kick your dog this morning by mistake? Its all just opinion. I don't feel teachers are underpaid. You do. Sorry for my firm stance.

[troutman]

Social workers, by a landslide.

[Hack&Lube]

I agree that the banks are the worst

[Mccree]

Originally Posted by boobaloo

As a physical therapist, how many $hitty arses does she have to clean? To me, RN and LPN are the most thankless, underpaid occupations of all, particularly LPN. LPN gets to do all the crappy jobs the RN doesn't want to do, and the job is back-breaking. I think your S-I-L is just being kind to you by agreeing that she's overpaid. And I am a professional health care worker myself.

I agree, my wife is a RN and I would NEVER want her job.

[return to the red]

nearly half the people living in Lethbridge are underpaid.

My sister works as a teacher In Calgary and $70k a year blows my salary out of the water.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by MJK

That's your opinion.

Teachers get paid a salary for the days they work during the year that does NOT include the summer. It is actually the choice of the teacher to have a portion of every cheque gets held back so in reality, not every teacher gets paid during the summer. Is that too hard to understand?

But thanks for being snotty about it anyhow.

So teachers get paid for the time they work and that's not fair??? I'm confused... In my opinion they shouldn't get paid for the summer because they are not working in the summer. Making $40,000 for 10 months of work isn't too shabby. Or if you choose to have your pay cheques distributed throughout the year making $40,000 for 10 months of work and 2 months of paid vacation isn't too shabby either...

Maybe it's just me but I feel I'm paid what society values my time at.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by MacDougalbry

Yes, but if we are comparing annual salary to annual salary, it is irrelevant whether there are paycheques in the summer or not.

Then compare the annual salaries. Based on that, teachers are underpaid.

[Reaper]

Underpaid: Home Care workers - The provincial government hasn't changed the maximum amount of monthly funding that a person can receive for their home care costs in 17 years.

Basically, this is why I'm getting out of the home care profession and going back to school to take Piping.