12-28-2019, 05:01 PM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Haytons helmet thing isnt the end of the world. It is rude though.
I do appreciate when the team representing me and the place I live show respect even in bad times. But I dont think Hayton was aware of what he was doing. Just emotionally drained and stunned I think. A simple sorry, wont happen again would suffice.
No need to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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12-28-2019, 05:09 PM
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#142
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In the Sin Bin
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Funny how everyone else managed to show respect to the anthem, dammage, except for the captain. There's virtually zero chance that the "he wasn't aware" excuse is legitimate.
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12-28-2019, 05:12 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nfotiu
Not in international sport anyway. NA Pro Sports is another discussion.
Agreed with the first part though. Canada is basically the NY Yankees of international hockey, they need to take their medicine when they get beat. International sports should be about respecting each other's countries.
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I totally agree anthems in Pro Sports are unnecessary and singing anthems prior to games are stupid not the anthem itself is stupid.
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12-28-2019, 05:13 PM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Haytons helmet thing isnt the end of the world. It is rude though.
I do appreciate when the team representing me and the place I live show respect even in bad times. But I dont think Hayton was aware of what he was doing. Just emotionally drained and stunned I think. A simple sorry, wont happen again would suffice.
No need to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Stripping him of captaincy from a temporary team would seem to be making a foot hit out of a foot hill though, and an appropriate response.
Last edited by nfotiu; 12-28-2019 at 05:20 PM.
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12-28-2019, 05:17 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
No need to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Just wondering, what is a mountain in your mind? I don't think removing him from the team is necessary, I don't even think removing his captaincy is necessary. However, I do think he needs to recognize what he has done and apologize to Russian team, or apologize in general.
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12-28-2019, 05:24 PM
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#146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Turn up the good, turn down the suck!
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12-28-2019, 05:25 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by midniteowl
Just wondering, what is a mountain in your mind? I don't think removing him from the team is necessary, I don't even think removing his captaincy is necessary. However, I do think he needs to recognize what he has done and apologize to Russian team, or apologize in general.
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Agreed, and that's exactly what happened.
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12-28-2019, 05:27 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Funny how everyone else managed to show respect to the anthem, dammage, except for the captain. There's virtually zero chance that the "he wasn't aware" excuse is legitimate.
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Well, you want to character assassinate a teenager for not removing his helmet, go right ahead. I said what I felt on the situation. You feel strongly about what happened. No problem.
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12-28-2019, 05:28 PM
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#149
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nfotiu
Stripping him of captaincy from a temporary team would seem to be making a foot hit out of a foot hill though, and an appropriate response.
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Excessive IMO, the apology is fine. Like other has said, Russian have done similar. Doubt there were apologies attached.
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12-28-2019, 06:18 PM
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#150
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Well, you want to character assassinate a teenager for not removing his helmet, go right ahead. I said what I felt on the situation. You feel strongly about what happened. No problem.
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And if you want to white knight for someone who damn well knew better, I'm just going to keep rolling my eyes at your excuses.
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12-28-2019, 06:41 PM
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#151
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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He shouldn't have done it, he knows it and apologized....time to move on.
Much bigger issues for the team to address.
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12-28-2019, 11:05 PM
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#152
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Franchise Player
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Canada getting their Hayt on.
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12-28-2019, 11:29 PM
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#153
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Franchise Player
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Wow.
Every team in the pool is 1 and 1, and with goal differential Canada is actually in last place.
Yikes
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12-29-2019, 02:31 AM
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#154
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jan 2007
Exp: 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neo45
It’s not skill, it’s size and strength. A super young Canada team vs an old Russia team. Canada lost every puck battle
10 returning players for Russia and many play in men’s leagues. They were just way stronger. Lafreniere was one of the few players on Canada willing to play physical
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I might be mistaken but isn't Canada one of the tallest and heaviest teams in the tournament?
They played a heavy game against the Americans so I'm not sure if it was a size and strength thing against the Russians.
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12-29-2019, 08:29 AM
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#155
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Wow.
Every team in the pool is 1 and 1, and with goal differential Canada is actually in last place.
Yikes
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Goal differential might be pretty inconsequential at the end of the day, as head to head is the first tie breaker.
If Canada wins their last two, and Russia loses to the US, Canada finishes first.
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12-29-2019, 08:43 AM
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#156
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Since it was Russia I'm not mad. Kids are probably doping anyway.
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Have to agree on this, are they even tested at a junior tournament? In the “Icurus” documentary on Russian doping the show indicated that some of their atheletes started doping in their teens.
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12-29-2019, 08:47 AM
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#157
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
Have to agree on this, are they even tested at a junior tournament? In the “Icurus” documentary on Russian doping the show indicated that some of their atheletes started doping in their teens.
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All IIHF athletes are tested at international tournaments.
Really unfair to paint these kids with that brush. Many of them play in North America and are subject to the same rules and testing that all "our" guys are. Should we be thinking the same about them?
Malkin? Ovechkin? Anyone with a Russian passport? If not...why not?
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12-29-2019, 08:50 AM
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#158
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
The thing that annoys the absolute #### out of me is when they talk about other games happening simultaneously. Like, Ferraro just blurts out the score in the Sweden game. I was taping that, you #######, why even mention a game that you're not commentating on? FFS.
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I want to know scores in the other games.
Maybe it’s just me.
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12-29-2019, 08:55 AM
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#159
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Goal differential might be pretty inconsequential at the end of the day, as head to head is the first tie breaker.
If Canada wins their last two, and Russia loses to the US, Canada finishes first.
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So are we cheering for the U.S. today?
I can’t bring myself to do that.
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12-29-2019, 10:07 AM
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#160
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Lifetime Suspension
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Dale Hunter, he’s possibly the worst coach (outside of Tim.Hunter) I can think of for an international tournament.
Last edited by Drake; 12-29-2019 at 10:10 AM.
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