[PGT] Flames HabNoted 4-3 OT loss

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by zamler

In defence of Rittich he's played the most minutes of any goalie the guy is getting burnt out.

2nd most but sure...again not putting all the blame on him but if he was on his game the Flames win

This is the NHL...very rarely do teams just dominate for 60 mins these days. Watching the highlights and most games are crazy swings and comebacks

[Burner]

i'm sorry but this game is on Rittich - I am sure he will bounce back but just needed a steady presence back there and he didnt provide it. Get the feeling he is trying to hard. Just stay in the net - put the puck in the corner or behind your net for the defenseman and concentrate on making the save. I love his competitiveness but he needs to be a solid goalie first. The bad shot from the corner was the TSN Turning point - oh wait - it wasnt on TSN

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by zamler

Flames are .500 last 10 games we should have passed the Oilers a few games back.

We won 7 in a row.

We then lost 3 in a row.

How is 7-2-1 in the last 10 .500?

[zamler]

Originally Posted by dino7c

2nd most but sure...again not putting all the blame on him but if he was on his game the Flames win

This is the NHL...very rarely do teams just dominate for 60 mins

nhl.com says first but yea we need to get Talbot involved more.

[Robbob]

Problem with that first goal is it gave Montreal lots of momentum and I think it triggered some ptsd from when Elliott let a goal in from that same corner. Flames were bending and not breaking up to that point. I didn't get a good look at the replay at the dome, so I'll have to take a look to see how it went in.

It also looks like the players are frustrated at the refs, I don't recall as many conversations between plays. Must be frustrating not being able to draw penalties, especially on that one on lucic. McDavid would have been awarded a penalty shot.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by zamler

nhl.com says first but yea we need to get Talbot involved more.

I heard Andersson had passed him...could be wrong

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Burner

i'm sorry but this game is on Rittich - I am sure he will bounce back but just needed a steady presence back there and he didnt provide it. Get the feeling he is trying to hard. Just stay in the net - put the puck in the corner or behind your net for the defenseman and concentrate on making the save. I love his competitiveness but he needs to be a solid goalie first. The bad shot from the corner was the TSN Turning point - oh wait - it wasnt on TSN

Please correct me if wrong....but neither of the 2 bad goals had anything to do with his puckhandling.

The OT goal was a perfect shot.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by zamler

I keep saying we are weak down the middle but no one seems to care.

I think that’s why Monahan and Lindholm are there right now, which I don’t think is bad, especially with Ryan in the bottom 6.

[SuperMatt18]

Only watched the highlights but I agree with Dino7c in that 3 of the goals weren’t great.

1st - Gallagher one is pretty clearly bad
2nd - That Armia short is in a good spot but still should be saved
4th - Again a night shot by Domi but just feel like his angles were off and he was kind of reaching for it instead of being sound positionally

So yeah the first one was bad by any measure, and while the 2nd and 4th were good shots Rittich just didn’t seem sound positionally or set positionally on either.

[Patek23]

I’m not worried. 7-2-1 in last 10. If these three losses were peppered in there rather then in a row no one would be saying much. If we lose the next I’ll be concerned.

[dino7c]

The OT winner was a big fluke...he closed his eyes and took a wild swing. Lucky it went off the post and in but yeah for me Rittich isn't set or properly positioned...if he is out half a foot it doesn't go in. Not terrible but it was a pretty easy play to read since Domi had nothing else there.

[Vinny01]

This is the second year of Gulutzan all over again. Mediocre start after heightened expectations. Get back in the mix with a 7 game win streak but still the team looks a little off Gulutzan threw a stick, Ward played hand/kick ball. They now seem to have sunken back to mediocrity. I hope this narrative changes but the group is headed for a 12-15th pick in the first round. Hopefully they sell at the deadline and add assets.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Only watched the highlights but I agree with Dino7c in that 3 of the goals weren’t great.

1st - Gallagher one is pretty clearly bad
2nd - That Armia short is in a good spot but still should be saved
4th - Again a night shot by Domi but just feel like his angles were off and he was kind of reaching for it instead of being sound positionally

So yeah the first one was bad by any measure, and while the 2nd and 4th were good shots Rittich just didn’t seem sound positionally or set positionally on either.

Let’s just look at this with a hair of logic

What percent of the net does a goalie cover? Obviously it depends on shooter position, goalie position, etc. What do you think, say 85 percent?

When a shot is taken, how long does it take to get to the net?

How far out was Domi? 30 feet?
How fast do you think his shot was? Safe to say 80 mph
1 mph = 1.467 FPS
80 mph = 117.36 feet per second

So the puck was off Domi’s stick and reached the net in about a quarter of a second

How quickly neurons move information is the speed of neural transmission
Some experiments have documented typical human reaction time to visual stimulus as ~0.25 seconds

The whole point is that a goalie covers a certain percentage of the net. When the shot is taken, it has a certain likelihood of hitting the goalie

If the distance is short enough and velocity is high enough, the goalie’s reaction to the shot is immaterial. The only variable he has is his positioning.

If he covers 85 percent of the net, over time, 15 percent of such shots go in.

Long story short, Domi blew a perfectly placed shot past Rittich

Proud goalie thinks he should have had it. Science doesn’t agree as much as the CP naysayers.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It is really time to trade Backlund with some other assets to get another top 6 forward. Backlund has been crap since the Avs series, move that contract while you can.

Hard not to feel this way with how his season is going..

I know I’m prob not in the majority but for me the only guys I would be disappointed if traded would be:

- Gaudreau
- Tkachuk
- Monahan
- Lindholm
- Dube
- Mangiapane
- Bennett

- Andersson
- Valimaki
- Hanifin
- Gio
- Kylington

- Rittich

Honorable mention: Ryan

Bolded players are guys I would be right pissed to see traded.

We do need some changes made. That much is evident..

[zamler]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Let’s just look at this with a hair of logic

What percent of the net does a goalie cover? Obviously it depends on shooter position, goalie position, etc. What do you think, say 85 percent?

When a shot is taken, how long does it take to get to the net?

How far out was Domi? 30 feet?
How fast do you think his shot was? Safe to say 80 mph
1 mph = 1.467 FPS
80 mph = 117.36 feet per second

So the puck was off Domi’s stick and reached the net in about a quarter of a second

How quickly neurons move information is the speed of neural transmission
Some experiments have documented typical human reaction time to visual stimulus as ~0.25 seconds

The whole point is that a goalie covers a certain percentage of the net. When the shot is taken, it has a certain likelihood of hitting the goalie

If the distance is short enough and velocity is high enough, the goalie’s reaction to the shot is immaterial. The only variable he has is his positioning.

If he covers 85 percent of the net, over time, 15 percent of such shots go in.

Long story short, Domi blew a perfectly placed shot past Rittich

Proud goalie thinks he should have had it. Science doesn’t agree as much as the CP naysayers.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Let’s just look at this with a hair of logic

What percent of the net does a goalie cover? Obviously it depends on shooter position, goalie position, etc. What do you think, say 85 percent?

When a shot is taken, how long does it take to get to the net?

How far out was Domi? 30 feet?
How fast do you think his shot was? Safe to say 80 mph
1 mph = 1.467 FPS
80 mph = 117.36 feet per second

So the puck was off Domi’s stick and reached the net in about a quarter of a second

How quickly neurons move information is the speed of neural transmission
Some experiments have documented typical human reaction time to visual stimulus as ~0.25 seconds

The whole point is that a goalie covers a certain percentage of the net. When the shot is taken, it has a certain likelihood of hitting the goalie

If the distance is short enough and velocity is high enough, the goalie’s reaction to the shot is immaterial. The only variable he has is his positioning.

If he covers 85 percent of the net, over time, 15 percent of such shots go in.

Long story short, Domi blew a perfectly placed shot past Rittich

Proud goalie thinks he should have had it. Science doesn’t agree as much as the CP naysayers.

One guy made the big save and the other guy didn't

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

This is the second year of Gulutzan all over again. Mediocre start after heightened expectations. Get back in the mix with a 7 game win streak but still the team looks a little off Gulutzan threw a stick, Ward played hand/kick ball. They now seem to have sunken back to mediocrity. I hope this narrative changes but the group is headed for a 12-15th pick in the first round. Hopefully they sell at the deadline and add assets.

Lets wait and see where they are at the deadline...they are a few points off the division lead and likely in the top 3 of the Pacific IMO

Outplay Edmonton/Vancouver the rest of the year and they are basically a lock for top 3

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

One guy made the big save and the other guy didn't

Sure. Different shots. Very different.

Rittich made his share of 10 bell saves.

[Phaneuf_Phan]

What the heck happened to Rinaldo? This team was on fire with him in the lineup and for some reason they took him out??

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Sure. Different shots. Very different.

Rittich made his share of 10 bell saves.

Price let in zero bad goals...he robbed Tkachuk and the Flames of a 3-0 lead and shorty after Rittich let in a shot from the corner

On this night he was certainly the 2nd best goalie on the ice