12-18-2019, 08:55 AM
|
#361
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Deal was one for one: Hamonic for Hall.
|
This doesn't make sense. NJD doesn't need RHS RD and technically have too many of them. They need LHS dmen.
If the rumors are true and Treliving was focused on offering a hockey deal over futures, I think one of the biggest issues is that most of our young assets that make sense require extensions very soon (Jankowski, Mangiapane, Kylington, Brodie etc.) Bennett has another season before an extension is required as well.
Quite a few GM seemingly don't really enjoy the contract negotiation process, so I could potentially see that have being the tie breaker in Arizona's favour even if the Flames package was very enticing.
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 09:35 AM
|
#362
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
|
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 09:56 AM
|
#363
|
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
Aside from the main reason that Taylor Hall is not a good fit, the Flames are barely having on to a playoff position. Not a time to trade futures away, unless they run the team like Ottawa. I seem to remember Ottawa trading futures for Duchene and then starting a rebuild a year later.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Flamenspiel For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 10:14 AM
|
#364
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
|
I am going to be v pissed when we are fighting the coyotes for a playoff spot at the end of the season. I can already feel it happening.
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 10:15 AM
|
#365
|
|
Franchise Player
|
TBH I can barely taste the difference between Coke and Pepsi
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 10:16 AM
|
#366
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
Aside from the main reason that Taylor Hall is not a good fit, the Flames are barely having on to a playoff position. Not a time to trade futures away, unless they run the team like Ottawa. I seem to remember Ottawa trading futures for Duchene and then starting a rebuild a year later.
|
yes because it would be really awful trying to fit another ppg forward into the top 6 of a team with streaky scoring. Really a difficulty for our coaching staff and a good reason not to do it.
If you think we are like Ottawa then we should be talking about trading johnny and mony for good returns and tanking.
I am not ready to give up on this core, and we are wasting precious time remaining on their value contracts. Now was exactly the time to give it a shot when a superstar player was actually available for futures.
Sucks to suck.
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 11:48 AM
|
#368
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
yes because it would be really awful trying to fit another ppg forward into the top 6 of a team with streaky scoring. Really a difficulty for our coaching staff and a good reason not to do it.
If you think we are like Ottawa then we should be talking about trading johnny and mony for good returns and tanking.
I am not ready to give up on this core, and we are wasting precious time remaining on their value contracts. Now was exactly the time to give it a shot when a superstar player was actually available for futures.
Sucks to suck. |
A little over 2 years ago Ottawa pushed the eventual cup winners to game 7 of the Conf. Finals.
Turns out that was mostly a lightning-in-bottle situation, and the drop-off to reality was dramatic. Not totally dissimilar to the last 12 months in Calgary...
Of course there are tons of differences, too - but, the cautionary tale of trading away unprotected 1sts is 100% valid
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 12:26 PM
|
#369
|
|
CP's Fraser Crane
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
|
Guess that’s the end of the Hall to Calgary Rumors
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to stang For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 12:33 PM
|
#370
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
|
I'm fairly certain Hall is going wherever he is paid the most.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Geeoff For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 12:38 PM
|
#371
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
I'm fairly certain Hall is going wherever he is paid the most.
|
I think he will go to the team that he thinks gives him the best chance to win while paying him fair market value for a top line winger (8-9M 7 year deal).
I think there will be teams other than the Flames that will be able to offer that.
If there is any truth to the rumblings Hall would like to play here then I do think the Flames should consider moving a guy like Gaudreau for some high end futures and then bring Hall in with that cap space.
Flames could net a very high end prospect or top 10 pick + for Johnny
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 12:46 PM
|
#372
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
|
Montreal is closer to home.
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 12:49 PM
|
#373
|
|
Scoring Winger
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
|
Awe, well I had a small inkling he wanted to be a Calgary flame.. of course Eklund snuffs that out.
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 12:57 PM
|
#374
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I think he will go to the team that he thinks gives him the best chance to win while paying him fair market value for a top line winger (8-9M 7 year deal).
I think there will be teams other than the Flames that will be able to offer that.
If there is any truth to the rumblings Hall would like to play here then I do think the Flames should consider moving a guy like Gaudreau for some high end futures and then bring Hall in with that cap space.
Flames could net a very high end prospect or top 10 pick + for Johnny
|
If say Columbus comes in and offers him the $12 million they offered Panarin, it would be hard to turn down
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 01:05 PM
|
#375
|
|
Franchise Player
|
sorry, wrong thread
__________________
"By Grabthar's hammer ... what a savings."
Last edited by Harry Lime; 12-18-2019 at 01:09 PM.
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 01:14 PM
|
#376
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Deal was one for one: Hamonic for Hall.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleF
This doesn't make sense. NJD doesn't need RHS RD and technically have too many of them. They need LHS dmen.
|
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to GioforPM For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 01:28 PM
|
#377
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
A little over 2 years ago Ottawa pushed the eventual cup winners to game 7 of the Conf. Finals.
Turns out that was mostly a lightning-in-bottle situation, and the drop-off to reality was dramatic. Not totally dissimilar to the last 12 months in Calgary...
Of course there are tons of differences, too - but, the cautionary tale of trading away unprotected 1sts is 100% valid
|
Yes, totally dissimilar actually. The Flames are nothing like Ottawa.
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 01:31 PM
|
#378
|
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Hall (50% ret), Speers to ARI for 1st, cond 3rd, Merkley, Schnarr, Bahl
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
Sure did, and he is a great offensive player. But saying he is a 200 foot player is a fallacy. He is what he is and plays defence just like Gaudreau does.
|
Edit: Quoted the wrong post apparently. My mistake!
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 01:57 PM
|
#379
|
|
In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
|
I'm more interested in what Roger/Richard Dicklund has to say.
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2019, 02:21 PM
|
#380
|
|
Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
|
Hall trying to telepathically call out for help.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to sureLoss For This Useful Post:
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:45 PM.
|
|
