12-11-2019, 01:59 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Interesting that the organization is claiming that it "had no prior knowledge". Hopefully it conducts a thorough independent investigation to determine whether or not that is in fact true? For example, were there any of the organization's senior staff at the party?
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"Life of Russian hockey veterans is very hard," said Soviet hockey star Sergei Makarov. "Most of them don't have enough to eat these days. These old players are Russian legends."
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12-11-2019, 02:00 PM
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#102
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Now that's how you apologize.
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12-11-2019, 02:00 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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I have seen a few people suggest that Aliu was trouble everywhere he went as a pro. Gee, I wonder why? WTF is wrong with people?
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12-11-2019, 02:00 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Yikes. That photo is disgusting. That’s way worse than the Peters thing in my opinion, which was also horrible.
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12-11-2019, 02:02 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Their president and GM Chris Stewart has been with the team since 2003. So this statement and that organization can go directly #### itself. Liars.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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12-11-2019, 02:03 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Makarov
Interesting that the organization is claiming that it "had no prior knowledge". Hopefully it conducts a thorough independent investigation to determine whether or not that is in fact true? For example, were there any of the organization's senior staff at the party?
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Thought the same thing. "We" had no prior knowledge. Signed, "the organization".
Who exactly is covered by that? The immediate denial of knowledge is always suspect. You can't have come to that conclusion so rapidly.
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12-11-2019, 02:04 PM
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#107
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I think you might be surprised to learn how 'every other Canadian' who isn't white experiences Canada. Just because we're less racist than most places doesn't mean it isn't a thing or that it isn't a problem.
Having 96% of your party made up of rich white folks is a problem. It doesn't mean they're racists. But a group that's 96% rich white folks is going to prioritize their interests. And their interests are going to be pretty similar.
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‘Every other Canadian’.??? I ask my friends and relatives who are not white how they feel about certain major political parties being racist. They all agree that there is a certain party that may be more racist than others, (didn’t get a seat). But the most racist is the party with the leader who went blackface 3 times.
FYI I never said racism wasn’t a problem or an issue in Canada. Clearly it is.
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12-11-2019, 02:04 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Hard to comprehend that only the equipment manager is going down here.
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12-11-2019, 02:06 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
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I feel really bad for Aliu. So much for the guys in the locker room having your back.
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12-11-2019, 02:14 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I do have to say that my view on this has changed too. I once thought something similar to you as well, in that if you're wearing it for "accuracy" it's maybe okay.
But I think that message is wrong now too.
Even just doing what you stated in your example is calling out to that young child that "Iggy is different than you". Which is the exact mentality that we need to move away from as a culture.
If you want to dress up as Iggy, Aladdin, Michael Jackson, etc then there is no reason you can't wear the costume without the blackface.
The better message that we need to be sending is that we are all equal regardless of the colour of our skin. So if that kid wants to go out in his hockey gear, and Iggy jersey and go as Iggy for halloween then that's all he needs, no need to paint his face to "be like his idol".
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I gotta say, I've never once seen a Trick-or-Treat aged child dressed as anything that could be described as 'problematic'.
As for the adults. Let's all take a step back, and try to remember the true meaning of Halloween. Once a year, at the end of October, all the women let their inner stripper out of the box. For one night, all the world's a garden, and you need only find a hoe.
Guys. And it is 'guys'. Don't ruin it. Not for this.
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12-11-2019, 02:14 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Makarov
Interesting that the organization is claiming that it "had no prior knowledge". Hopefully it conducts a thorough independent investigation to determine whether or not that is in fact true? For example, were there any of the organization's senior staff at the party?
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If they had no prior knowledge of a what happened at a team event where full time staff like the equipment manager was present, my next question is "why not".
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12-11-2019, 02:14 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Hard to comprehend that only the equipment manager is going down here.
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I doubt this is the end of it. I expect there will be an investigation.
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"Life of Russian hockey veterans is very hard," said Soviet hockey star Sergei Makarov. "Most of them don't have enough to eat these days. These old players are Russian legends."
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12-11-2019, 02:14 PM
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#113
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Why all the Trudeau hate? C Thomas Howell is the true villain here.
I think it just goes to show times have changed a bit, this was a movie released in 1986 by a major studio. Is that the same as the photo from the party or is there degrees of blackface?
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12-11-2019, 02:15 PM
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#114
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
The photo in question. It's worse then I thought it would be. Poor Aliu. Extremely humiliating for him to be put in that position.
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He didn't paint his legs, not dedicated enough like our dear beloved and diverse PM. 
It's honestly horrible no matter who does it. It's a travesty that we still have players facing this in this day and age.
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12-11-2019, 02:16 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by RichKlit
So he gets a pass because "its just Justin being Justin"? I think the leader of our country can be held to higher standard then that.
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He didn't get a pass. He lost his majority government. His job isn't one that allows the occupant to just be fired over a scandal. He faced an election. He lost a lot of power.
Just because it wasn't the punishment you wanted, doesn't mean it wasn't a punishment.
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12-11-2019, 02:18 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronck
Why all the Trudeau hate? C Thomas Howell is the true villain here.
I think it just goes to show times have changed a bit, this was a movie released in 1986 by a major studio. Is that the same as the photo from the party or is there degrees of blackface?
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It was a major release in 1986 and it destroyed Ponyboy's career then too.
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12-11-2019, 02:20 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Their president and GM Chris Stewart has been with the team since 2003. So this statement and that organization can go directly #### itself. Liars.
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from wikipedia:
At the press conference, Head Coach, General Manager and President Chris Stewart announced that the team had been accepted as an expansion franchise in the ECHL for the 2011–12 season.
Looks to me like "senior management" aside from Chris Stewart would have been the equipment manager. It's practically impossible he didn't know.
The Avs just acquired the Eagles as an AHL affiliate last season. Ouch.
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12-11-2019, 02:21 PM
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#118
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
And our esteemed prime minister is no better.
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And neither are you for pathetically bringing in an irrelevant argument to make yourself feel better.
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12-11-2019, 02:24 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Their president and GM Chris Stewart has been with the team since 2003. So this statement and that organization can go directly #### itself. Liars.
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Honestly I would love nothing more than Aliu to call the organization out for that.
That public apology reeks of nothing but excuses and PR. If you aren't trying to make an excuse, then don't. But making an excuse only to say that you aren't is such hogwash.
Throw that "no ego too big or stature so proud" right back at them and ask them how the current president and coach at the time didn't know.
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12-11-2019, 02:24 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctorfever
‘Every other Canadian’.??? I ask my friends and relatives who are not white how they feel about certain major political parties being racist. They all agree that there is a certain party that may be more racist than others, (didn’t get a seat). But the most racist is the party with the leader who went blackface 3 times.
FYI I never said racism wasn’t a problem or an issue in Canada. Clearly it is.
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Warning - sarcasm alert: Obviously the Liberals are more racist than the Nazi Party since Hitler never wore blackface even once. Say, how come Scheer said he accepted the apology? Is he racist-accepting?
I'd rather judge the parties' position on issue of race by their internal diversity and their policies, thanks.
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