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Old 12-07-2019, 11:04 PM   #81
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But holy crap there's an old man inside me that just thinks the nhl is not even the same sport anymore it is so soft these days.
Well it isn't anything like it was 30=35 years ago...and IMO that was the golden era both in legendary players as well as the mix with full out physicality.

Some people like that its softened so much and its a better game...I think those people are dead wrong.
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Could we talk about some others things that happened in a win then arguing one hit? Please?
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:05 PM   #83
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I'm confused but also haven't followed suspensions too closely in recent years. Last I followed, hits to the head were illegal, are you saying it's now illegal to hit high chest?
I think in this particular incident it's that Rinaldo elevated himself to hit the player high when it wasn't necessary. I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but in the past I've felt the league has viewed those as predatory hits and are trying to limit that kind of action in a hit.

It doesn't look like he made contact with the head, but it certainly wasn't shoulder to shoulder either. Elevates up to hit high in the chest (at the least), which is a dangerous and (IMO) unnecessary.

I can see DoPS going either way on this one.
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I thought the Rinaldo hit was clean. The refs on the ice seemed to think so too.

Unfortunately, his reputation will earn him a suspension.
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:07 PM   #85
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He caught most of his shoulder, let's not get carried away saying that he intended to injure him.
Nobody has said that so far. And from the looks I've seen, I am tempted to say the principle point of contact is high chest, not the head or shoulders.

It's just a highly dangerous way to hit another player, which the league is trying to phase out.
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Bravo Matt Stajan, bravo.
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:09 PM   #87
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Cool, Stajan joining the local intermission panel on some games! love it
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Stajan is a good dude. Love him.
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scott oake is so cringe
People complain about cliche hockey interviews...but Oake gets these guys actually talking
I don’t get the hate
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Could we talk about some others things that happened in a win then arguing one hit? Please?
Just bring up something else rather than crowing for posters to post differently. It's a huge community of people speaking about whatever interests them and all you can do is bring up your own thing and see if it sticks.

My apologies for the abrasiveness, but one thing that gets me on CP is the "Why is this being discussed!!!??" or "I'm tired of topic X!!". All topics and conversations are representative of the community and proclaiming issues/topics worthy or unworthy generally has the opposite effect you want it to.

It adds nothing, and nothing more than that. I get the sentiment when people are frustrated, but it's a net negative in terms of contribution.

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Basketball is charmin soft, maybe people should stick to watching that if hockey is too violent.
Or the ballet!
Right?!?!
I love hockey
But it’s evolving and will continue to
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Monday is the most-important game of the year. Pull out all the stops to get to 5-0.
It will be.

Biggest test, given that they're playing good hockey now, having to face down their demons... who are also red hot. They'll be up against it to extend the streak.
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Launching yourself into another player is basically a description of hitting. And vulnerable is subjective bs. What are they supposed to only hit people who they are making eye contact with? I get it if hes on his knees or something but a player skating with the puck is not hittable now?

He separated man from puck, shoulder to shoulder. No penalty call.

The day shoulder to shoulder checks like that become suspendable may as well get rid of hitting. Go for it if that's the way the league wants to go. I get the head protection... I realize this is the way it needs to go legally.

But holy crap there's an old man inside me that just thinks the nhl is not even the same sport anymore it is so soft these days.
The description of hitting is evolving
He didn’t need to launch himself to get the puck
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:12 PM   #96
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And yes Lucic! I was against the trade, but now that I'm past that I cheer for anyone on the team and Lucic has won me over. Just a hard working guy that you can't help but cheer for.
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We are no longer standing inside of our blue line when accepting the first breakout pass. This is One major change that I have noticed post Peters and is the same thing that I was happy to see last year post GG, but seemed to have creeped back in this year.

I sure hope that this is a change that Ward is preaching, because it has been the biggest reason why we have been playing so slow this year imo
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Not to sound controversial but Peter's firing may be the turning point with this core. Something is majorly different. Not just the new coach bump, but an actual serious change in how the players approach the game and how they look out there.

I would never suggest that Peters was employing the same abusive tactics as in Carolina, but it seems some sort of dark cloud has lifted off the team and I know who just left.
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Been feeling pretty bad for Talbot lately. Those last two starts I thought he played well but the team hung him out to dry a lot of the time and his confidence just broke. Good on the team for finally showing up and getting him this one. Not easy coming off of such a long hiatus between games.


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