[News] Bill Peters resigns as head coach. No longer part of Flames org. Ward interim HC

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its silly but the bottom line is that Justin was a teacher in a position of authority and an example for the students. So its pretty comparable.

And nobody here is arguing that what Peter's didn't do was repulsive. But lets be fair in Justin's case his not one but three times in Blackface and at least once when he was a teacher is repulsive as well.

It's pretty comparable? No it freaking isn't. Yes what Trudeau did was repulsive. But it pales in comparison to what Peters to. Like not even close. Different stratosphere. I'm literally shocked that as many of you think they are comparable as you do.

I don't even understand the argument that they are comparable. They seem worlds apart at the briefest of glances.

[Dion]

I think the Flames organization and Treliving, in particular handled this situation the right way. For sure we can look back and say things could have and should been done differently, but you can't change what happened in the past. All you can do moving forward is to learn from your mistakes and use what you learned going forward.

[zamler]

"literally shocked"

I vote to shut this down at midnight I think everyone has had their say. Time to move on.

[Looch City]

Well it made my week go by rather quick.

I was entertained.

[DeluxeMoustache]

I’m glad this crap is in the rear view mirror

Go Ward!

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

I wonder if the Peters resignation is going to end up sweeping the more prevalent "toxic hockey culture" issue under the rug.

I think they're very separate and deserve their own inquiries and resolutions.

[Oil Stain]

My god that Eric Francis air quote was horrendous.

How do you pull a move like that when literally the entire hockey world is in hyper sensitivity mode all week?

Mind bottling.

[cannon7]

Black face is considered highly racist in the United States. So I find this Trudeau talk rather bizarre.

[Meers]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

It's pretty comparable? No it freaking isn't. Yes what Trudeau did was repulsive. But it pales in comparison to what Peters to. Like not even close. Different stratosphere. I'm literally shocked that as many of you think they are comparable as you do.

I don't even understand the argument that they are comparable. They seem worlds apart at the briefest of glances.

I agree it isn't comparable. What Trudeau did was far, far worse. But he gets a pass on his racism, just like he did on his groping incident, because he and his followers are hypocrites.

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by Meers

I agree it isn't comparable. What Trudeau did was far, far worse. But he gets a pass on his racism, just like he did on his groping incident, because he and his followers are hypocrites.

Yeah, I agree. A person who goes to the extent to paint their entire face and body black in a mocking manner has some deep seeded racism. Its crazy that people think what Peters said is worse than what Trudeau did. Both are awful acts of racism. One guy gets to keep his job as PM of Canada the other one gets fired.

I really don't know how people reconcile the two incidents. There were no consequences for Trudeau because he's a woke Lefty.

[Hackey]

Trudeau was wearing a costume. I dont see how that is racist. I dont think he had any malicious intent.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

One is a very public position of entertainment. Relies solely on the general public spending their disposable money on tickets and merch. To keep someone in that position when allegations like this arise is suicide.

The other, we actually get to decide. As a country. You vote. There is no amount of public outrage that will change any sort of “income” the gov receives as a result... these are not the same thing. They are both equally gross, and I’m disappointed as all hell that this dense crook is running the country. But the two are not comparable in how the situation is resolved.

No. The liberal party could have removed him BEFORE the vote. That is totally comparable.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by jonesy

No. The liberal party could have removed him BEFORE the vote. That is totally comparable.

Well yeah that would have been nice, but they weren’t exactly interested in what their “fans” had to say there. The Flames were. Due to how they operate (revenue). They aren’t the same.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Wiggum_PI

Yeah, I agree. A person who goes to the extent to paint their entire face and body black in a mocking manner has some deep seeded racism. Its crazy that people think what Peters said is worse than what Trudeau did. Both are awful acts of racism. One guy gets to keep his job as PM of Canada the other one gets fired.

I really don't know how people reconcile the two incidents. There were no consequences for Trudeau because he's a woke Lefty.

Here's what you get when you Google 'racist definition':

- a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another

-showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another

From Wikipedia:

"In 2017, the Liberal government announced Canada will welcome nearly one million immigrants over the next three years. The number of migrants will climb to 310,000 in 2018, up from 300,000 in 2017. That number will rise to 330,000 in 2019 then 340,000 in 2020"

"met with hundreds of chiefs at the Assembly of First Nations on December 7, 2015, and laid out his philosophy and commitments to Canada's indigenous people, to assure their "constitutionally guaranteed rights ... a sacred obligation". In brief, he promised to rescind government policies that are in conflict with their rights, make a significant investment in education programs, increase general funding, and launch an enquiry into missing and murdered indigenous women. Trudeau also indicated that the new government would implement all of the recommendations made by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission."

Oh, and he legalized weed, the prohibition of which disproportionately impacts minority communities.

Trudeau was forgiven because his larger body of work is clearly and obviously the work of a man who does not view himself to be inately superior because of the color of his skin.

Meanwhile, Bill Peters called Aliu into his office and said "I'm really just sick of the n-bomb ####". Then he wrote a letter to Stan Bowman and sent Aliu to the ECHL.

All you have to do is look at Trudeau's disastrous trip to India to see the level to which he over commits to dress up. Is it embarrassing and a bad look? Yes. Is it hateful? I can't tell you what to believe, but it's a tough sell from where I'm sitting.

There's no non hateful way to do what Peters did, and he's going to spend the rest of his career in Magnitagorsk because of it.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Meers

I agree it isn't comparable. What Trudeau did was far, far worse. But he gets a pass on his racism, just like he did on his groping incident, because he and his followers are hypocrites.

Trudeau followers?

Really?

You should put yourself in that camp because saying that a guy who makes a stupid decision for a costume choice is worse than targeting a person with a racial slur shows an infatuation with him that I’ll never understand.

Did you tire of defending Don Cherry with Trudeau?

The false equivalencies are stark, tiresome, and pathetic.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Trudeau except that it activates the people who are infatuated with him... his “followers”.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Black face is considered highly racist in the United States. So I find this Trudeau talk rather bizarre.

I live in the United States. I’m not sure anything is considered highly racist here.

[GullFoss]

This thread is embarasssing

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its silly but the bottom line is that Justin was a teacher in a position of authority and an example for the students. So its pretty comparable.



And nobody here is arguing that what Peter's didn't do was repulsive. But lets be fair in Justin's case his not one but three times in Blackface and at least once when he was a teacher is repulsive as well.

Geoff Ward and Justin Trudeau are comparable in that Ward was an elementary school teacher, and Trudeau was a substitute drama teacher.

Although I guess Ward has more experience in his field, since he has been coaching since 1989.

[HockeyKhan]

Originally Posted by Willi Plett

I missed the press conference and see it referred to repeatedly. What did Pinder ask/say?

I would also like to find out about the above question if someone would please tell us.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by HockeyKhan

I would also like to find out about the above question if someone would please tell us.

Pinder point blank asked Treliving why they aren’t using the word racism when discussing the events that occurred. Brad responded by saying he’s repeatedly called what occurred repulsive.