[News] Bill Peters resigns as head coach. No longer part of Flames org. Ward interim HC

[flamesfan1297]

I personally think Brad Treliving handled this situation extremely well, I gained a ton of respect for him this week. The Flames organization from top to bottom seems like a class act.
I am excited to see what they do the rest of the year now, I'd really like to see Geoff Ward succeed, seems like a good guy and has earned this chance

[RichKlit]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I believe the league should be looking at discipline for this and I don’t believe that means I’m looking for bloodshed. Players get suspended without pay for all kinds of transgressions.

Shouldn’t this merit discipline if found to be true? Right now it seems the Flames are honoring their financial commitment to Peters. His reputation has suffered, but to this point everything I’ve heard leads me to believe that is justified. Is that enough? I’m not so sure.

I hope you don’t think my comment was directed at you because it wasn’t at all. Just a couple points, he has been punished, he’s lost his job and as far as I know and I could be wrong and if Iam then I stand corrected but no information has come out about the contract and what is/was or will be paid to him.

Realistically at his age he will never coach again I doubt at any level. Also at his age it’s unlikely he just starts up a new career, not even factoring in the stain he and his name carries now.

He’s been shamed and vilified(rightfully so) and you’ve read even on this board that some don’t think any apology is enough, or being labeled “cross burning Bill” etc etc. So ya I do think he’s been punished and being held accountable.

Is saying that word repugnant and disgusting? Of course it is, but is it against the law? If not then ya I think he’s been punished. I hope he takes or has taken the time to reflect and has taken steps to align his moral compass.

I just feel like So many people won’t allow roads to redemption or at least forgiveness and it’s sad and a little scary. I’m not sure this post makes sense it’s just been such a sad and tiring and disgusting week.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

You forget that CP has a rather substantial % of the venn diagram overlap of Liberal party supporters and flames fans.

Maybe its just the overly vocal ones.. idk

This isn’t true.

In election polling CP matches up relatively well with actual election results aside from more 3rd party support. What really is happening is that a Hockey Forum exposes you to views outside of your bubble as people from all walks of life and political opinions cheat for the flames.

[calumniate]

Originally Posted by btimbit

God damn I'm loving what I'm hearing from Tim and Sid right now.

Sid basically saying where the hell is the league, where is Hockey Canada. Why is the only person trying to get out in front of this Brad Treliving, and why is he being left out to dry from all the organizations where Peters actually did these things. Credit for being the only person to get in front of a camera and deal with this

Well said.

The latest Steve dangle podcast did a great job as well. Took a deeper dive into what Aliu went through overall

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

Personally I don’t get why hockey Canada would wade into this issue. They have nothing to do with the NHL

They're going to have to be leaders on dealing with the coach abuse issue going forward whether they want to be or not, it won't just be about the NHL. For lots of these players it gets normalized in minor hockey and junior and if it seems normal they're less likely to speak up about it until it's too late.

[Manhattanboy]

I wish Treliving was as good at evaluating hockey talent as he is at managing a very difficult and public HR situation that blindsided the organization.

[djsFlames]

Sure Bill can improve as a person in another career. I hope he does.

Not going to vilify someone I dont even know. Even if the acts themselves were wrong. Doesnt mean a person can't redeem themselves. It just can't happen in hockey because of PR.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I believe the league should be looking at discipline for this and I don’t believe that means I’m looking for bloodshed. Players get suspended without pay for all kinds of transgressions.

Shouldn’t this merit discipline if found to be true? Right now it seems the Flames are honoring their financial commitment to Peters. His reputation has suffered, but to this point everything I’ve heard leads me to believe that is justified. Is that enough? I’m not so sure.

Well, what exactly do you propose? It seems like quite a reasonable and fully justified result.

[GGG]

I’d love to see a poll on people’s opinion on how the flames handled this.

Choice one : I am satisfied with the way the flames handled the Peters situation.
Choice two : I am dissatisfied with the way the flames handled the Peters situation.

Keep it real simple and focused on what the flames did or didn’t do.

[STAMPEDRED]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I view it as very different things.
It is easier for an organization to move on from someone with these behaviors. Trudeau was voted back in.
I don't like it, but I don't know how you change that.
So i don't totally grasp the comparisons.

I know you quoted EE, so tagging off of that it is a total double standard with Trudeau being allowed to stay PM and then also being re-elected. Peter’s was the coach of a hockey team. Entertainment. Not right what he said, but it was also 10 years ago. However, Trudeau, who is the face of the NATION!! gets off with not even a whiff. The two don’t even relate in that this is how Canada is presented around the world with all of his feminist pansy ways and does the black face years ago, but somehow the coach of a hockey team is held to a higher standard of punishment? Yes Peters was wrong in what he said, and how he said it. But if he can’t be given the grace to apologize and prove he owns it and carry on as the team leader is a total load of crap. He will be more aware of his ways and actions, and if he doesn’t change then yes can him later on. Why? Because everyone’s had their run ins with regrets of what they said even years later.

The pathetic part is the Liberal party doesn’t give a rip about their leader being a full out racist, but Peters gets hauled through the ringer, in a less influential role in that he doesn’t lead the nation is a total joke for Calgary and also for the nation of Canada.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by GGG

I’d love to see a poll on people’s opinion on how the flames handled this.

Choice one : I am satisfied with the way the flames handled the Peters situation.
Choice two : I am dissatisfied with the way the flames handled the Peters situation.

Keep it real simple and focused on what the flames did or didn’t do.

Problem with your poll is choice 2 is too vague.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Problem with your poll is choice 2 is too vague.

This can be the 3rd poll choice.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Press Level

Just finished reading this thread. The best part was the Alanis lyrics.

I see right through you.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by GGG

This isn’t true.

In election polling CP matches up relatively well with actual election results aside from more 3rd party support. What really is happening is that a Hockey Forum exposes you to views outside of your bubble as people from all walks of life and political opinions cheat for the flames.

This is bang on, I would also say the reason CP comes across a little on the left side is from the posters themselves. In many of the political based threads here, you have quite a number of left leaning posters relative to what the actual poll results are. Some of these members make quality posts and carry themselves well too.

[Flash Walken]

I'm Satisfied

[flambers]

I'm glad its over with and hope we can focus on hockey...

Let's argue about the fun stuff....

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Ducay

The fact he is being fired for actions that occurred a long time ago at another job? (Not absolving him)

Obviously he'll work again, but this whole cancel culture is garbage. I certainly don't blame the Flames for firing him though, they literally have nothing to gain by taking his side and giving him a second chance and forgiveness (like they should). Hopefully this trend is over soon.

Are you blind?

Do you not see how he was not employable after this came out? You don't blame them for firing him? There was literally no choice sir. Bill Peters brought the Calgary Flames organization into disrepute. He could no longer be trusted by the management, players or fans.

Clearly you don't seem to understand there are certain mistakes you just don't come back from. There is no place for racist remarks from a coach to a young player. This wasn't a normal mistake

Bizarre take from you.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I'm Satisfied

But it's not like the risotto.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Because we're all human and make mistakes. If this were an off-ice incident that occured in the Flames dressing room, sure you've got a better case, but this was years ago at a totally different job.

Are we not allowed to make mistakes, apologize, and learn from them without having to be publically fired and shamed?

Excommunication is not an effective tool.

Depends what kind of mistake. There are certain mistakes we don't allow people to apologize for and learn from. Murder, sexual abuse, conspiracy, racist hate directed at young adults from a power authority.

These are all examples of things our society currently considers abhorrent.

Bill Peters didn't simply make a simple mistake. He used hateful speech directed at a young man who's livelihood he held in his hand. It was abusive, racist, personally I found his comment homophobic as well.

So no, there are certain mistakes you can't just apologize for and move on. This is one of those things. Not sure why you can't see that.

[Willi Plett]

I missed the press conference and see it referred to repeatedly. What did Pinder ask/say?