[News] UPD: Friedman: Peters being officially removed as head coach is close

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Flames/Hockey Canada/Carolina/... all could have done a decent job on their due diligence process and still not figured this one out. They don't speak to every player he ever coached for goodness sake.

Bill Peters was a good hire for the Flames at the time of his hiring. Now, it appears, it will be a good firing.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

it seems like there is a bit of a 'culture of silence' in the NHL (and probably all pro sports)... but you'd think they would have talked to the Canes management and possibly former assistant coaches at least prior to the hire?

i'd be curious to know more about Derek Ryan, who played for Peters down in the WHL and chose to sign with Calgary, in part, due to his relationship with Peters... Now it could very much be a case of stars being treated differently, so maybe Ryan never bore the brunt of Peter's behavior, but i'd be surprised if he never saw anything...

anyways, its a cluster f that's for sure...

TBF, the Canes weren't in a helping mood, since Peters sort of abandoned them IIRC. He had an option year and he opted out to go to another team. They weren't going to give any info before he opted out, that's for sure.

[Racki]

I think we see improved play out of Frolik and Jankowski tomorrow in buffalo. Huge weight off their shoulders I’m thinking. Johnny will also smile after both of his goals.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Quite the opposite. Tre came out immediately following the news, a prompt investigation and a quick result will (inevitably) be announced by tomorrow morning.

The Flames will look like an org. that doesn't tolerate this kind of thing, acted professionally and swiftly. There is no reason the Flames will be dragged through the mud on this.

I hope you're right.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

I think they are taking way too long to make this official. It should not be a hard decision.

Not even 24 hours

[Skyceman]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Flames/Hockey Canada/Carolina/... all could have done a decent job on their due diligence process and still not figured this one out. They don't speak to every player he ever coached for goodness sake.

Bill Peters was a good hire for the Flames at the time of his hiring. Now, it appears, it will be a good firing.

Which is why I don't agree with people trying to finger Brad on this. Companies make bad hires all the time and can only find out so much and will often rest some of that decision on the fact that another quality company had hired the person in the past.

[GullFoss]

Bill Peters:

1) Called Akim the N-Word

2) The captain of the team talked to Peters and told him the entire team thought Peter's actions were unacceptable. Peters then called Akim into his office and instead of apologizing, called Akim the N-word again

3) When Akim pushed back, Bill Peters ruined his career

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

it seems like there is a bit of a 'culture of silence' in the NHL (and probably all pro sports)... but you'd think they would have talked to the Canes management and possibly former assistant coaches at least prior to the hire?

i'd be curious to know more about Derek Ryan, who played for Peters down in the WHL and chose to sign with Calgary, in part, due to his relationship with Peters... Now it could very much be a case of stars being treated differently, so maybe Ryan never bore the brunt of Peter's behavior, but i'd be surprised if he never saw anything...

anyways, its a cluster f that's for sure...

I honestly think this is all about players abiding by a long established code of silence.

Derek Ryan won't say anything bad about Peters even if he witnessed it firsthand. It's the same reason Treliving would not have gained much useful information had he approached former players and asst. coaches for their thoughts, either.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Imagine the joy that Lindholm and Hanifin would have felt in April 2018 when Peters left Carolina, only to be reunited with him a couple months later in Calgary.

Perhaps a new coach will help both these players take another step forward?

[jiginla12]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Bill Peters:

1) Called Alim the N-Word

2) The captain of the team talked to Peters and told him the entire team thought Peter's actions were unacceptable. Peters then called Alim into his office and instead of apologizing, called Alim the N-word again

3) When Alim pushed back, Bill Peters ruined his career

Who's Alim?

[Skyceman]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I honestly think this is all about players abiding by a long established code of silence.

Derek Ryan won't say anything bad about Peters even if he witnessed it firsthand. It's the same reason TReliving would not have gained much useful information had he approached former players and asst. coaches for their thoughts, either.

Exactly well said.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Bill Peters:

1) Called Alim the N-Word

2) The captain of the team talked to Peters and told him the entire team thought Peter's actions were unacceptable. Peters then called Alim into his office and instead of apologizing, called Alim the N-word again

3) When Alim pushed back, Bill Peters ruined his career

It appears 1), 2) and 3) are inaccurate.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

TBF, the Canes weren't in a helping mood, since Peters sort of abandoned them IIRC. He had an option year and he opted out to go to another team. They weren't going to give any info before he opted out, that's for sure.

i think it was a mutual decision... there was a window to either continue on or walk away and i believe it was agreement between the two parties to part.

it was a case of the new owner wanting 'his own guy' iirc...

Abusive coaches stay in the game because no one speaks up however... enablers empowers abusers.... or winning trumps methods...

anyways, at this point it seems to be fait accompli

[GullFoss]

I wonder if Kylington was sent to the minors because he's black.

[Cuz]

Originally Posted by Racki

I think we see improved play out of Frolik and Jankowski tomorrow in buffalo. Huge weight off their shoulders I’m thinking. Johnny will also smile after both of his goals.

I think when Bennett comes back, he will play better too and maybe get more than a period on the second line.

[landshark]

Don't worry Flame fans - as a Sharks fan, I don't hold any of this against the organization. I know that Peters will not be behind the bench at the next game - CGY will do the right thing. The Flames will be fine and I'm terrified that they will finally start playing. I've been wondering all season what was wrong...

Things are changing and a lot of the 'that stuff sucks, but what can you do about it' is being addressed. The time has come for everyone to stop putting up with this ####. Call it out - make it stop.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I wonder if Kylington was sent to the minors because he's black.

/facepalm.

He was sent down because he didn't require waivers.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I wonder if Kylington was sent to the minors because he's black.

You think Treliving is racist too?

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

/facepalm.

He was sent down because he didn't require waivers.

I thought he was sent down to work on his "PK skills"

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You think Treliving is racist too?

I think its fair game to question whether Peters hindered Kylingtons development