[News] UPD: Friedman: Peters being officially removed as head coach is close

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by BrennyBaller

Have you seen the Prime Minister?

Can people please stop doing this deflecting? The reprehensible behaviour committed by an elected official decades ago and their repercussions are completely irrelevant to what's going on here.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Yes that's homophobic and hockey still has a long long way to go in that regard (and general LGBTQ acceptance within the sport).

Who even uses that as an insult these days? It's pretty damn immature.

I believe their was an incident last year that was investigated pretty thoroughly but it turned out buddy was yelling "Rag It"

We are seeing a culture shift where these things are no longer acceptable

[Sgrath]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Ok, to contrast what I said originally you're asking for Treviling to offer empathy in Peters exit?

How about you clarify your ambiguity?

Guess this is why i shouldn't post angry as I can see why you could have taken my statement the way you did. I was replying to the bolded part of Cecil's post. Should have made it much more clear in my answer. Sorry


Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger View Post
If Peters admitted to it immediately, expressed regret, contacted Aliu and apologized, would BT say they’re still investigating? If Aliu accepted his apology, could Peters stay?

[sureLoss]

Wes Gilbertson @WesGilbertson
Asked if he’s ever experienced racism with #Flames, D Oliver Kylington replies: “Never in this organization. I’ve been treated fairly.”

[rhino]

Originally Posted by MrMike

I believe their was an incident last year that was investigated pretty thoroughly but it turned out buddy was yelling "Rag It"

We are seeing a culture shift where these things are no longer acceptable

These things have never been "acceptable". The world no longer ignores or tolerates ignorance.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by New Era

I really hate the standard this is about to set. If Peters has not said anything like this while coaching the Flames then there is no grounds for termination - other than his ####ty coaching. How many people are going to get railroaded because they used bad language in the past? How many hockey players have not used a homophobic slur in the past? This opens a door than may never be closed. I'm not a fan of Peters, but him getting sacked for something that was done a decade ago is just bad business IMO.

Bad business?!

Keeping him is bad business.

Imagine your next draft interview with players who are african-american or have african ancestry? "Yeah, coach used the N word but that was a long time ago shrug emoji"

"Hi Cammi, we really want to sign you as a free agent and yeah our general manager used to hate Jews but that was a long time ago, so sign here please..."

Not sure what line of business you're in.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Wes Gilbertson @WesGilbertson
Asked if he’s ever experienced racism with #Flames, D Oliver Kylington replies: “Never in this organization. I’ve been treated fairly.”

I believe him. But also kinda wonder what Gilbertson (or whoever asked) what they thought he'd say.

"Yeah, this organization which pays me (on a two way salary) and has complete control over my career is racist".

[Split98]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I believe him. But also kinda wonder what Gilbertson (or whoever asked) what they thought he'd say.

"Yeah, this organization which pays me (on a two way salary) and has complete control over my career is racist".

Before the coach in question has been officially fired

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Wes Gilbertson @WesGilbertson
Asked if he’s ever experienced racism with #Flames, D Oliver Kylington replies: “Never in this organization. I’ve been treated fairly.”

I understand why he gets asked this, but I think it's a terrible question to ask.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I believe him. But also kinda wonder what Gilbertson (or whoever asked) what they thought he'd say.

"Yeah, this organization which pays me (on a two way salary) and has complete control over my career is racist".

"Ask me in 10 years"

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Wes Gilbertson @WesGilbertson
Asked if he’s ever experienced racism with #Flames, D Oliver Kylington replies: “Never in this organization. I’ve been treated fairly.”

Good to hear obviously. However, as we are beginning to acknowledge through these Aliu allegations, there is tremendous pressure on him to answer that way at this stage of his career. Nonetheless, it is good to hear.

[flames4lifeboys]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

God, what a surprise.

That piece of #### Bob Marjonovic on TSN 1040 is now attempting to sell this narrative that this could have been an isolated incident. He openly wonders why Aliu took so long to come forward with his allegations.

For added context, this is the same guy who consistently goes out of his way to slag PK Subban on the air at every opportunity.

Lol wow, you have issues my dude.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I understand why he gets asked this, but I think it's a terrible question to ask.

Reporters are so dumb sometimes.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Good to hear obviously. However, as we are beginning to acknowledge through these Aliu allegations, there is tremendous pressure on him to answer that way at this stage of his career. Nonetheless, it is good to hear.

Well if Peters did say racist things to him, I feel like now would be the time to be comfortable bringing it up. He's likely on the way out anyway and this would solidify it and there would be very little blow back from anyone in the oranization.

[Fire in the disco]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Used to be ok. No longer ok.

Completely agree. The former on the other hand has not been ok in our life times. Peters is gone

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by rhino

These things have never been "acceptable". The world no longer ignores or tolerates ignorance.

NEver no longer? Okay....

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by flames4lifeboys

Lol wow, you have issues my dude.

Issues with what bigots? Issues with bigots blaming and questioning the victim? What's wrong with having issues with that?

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I suspect that, as someone else said, the only delay in the official announcement is finalizing how he gets fired. Meaning...they are probably making sure they can fire him, with cause, in a way where he doesn't get paid further.

yup, that's my feeling as well. My guess would be that they've made the decision that Peters can't continue (which would explain Marek saying the stuff he did), but are still exploring as to how it will be done. Which makes sense from a business standpoint.

SMH at the Kylington thing. What a stupid question.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by New Era

I really hate the standard this is about to set. If Peters has not said anything like this while coaching the Flames then there is no grounds for termination - other than his ####ty coaching. How many people are going to get railroaded because they used bad language in the past? How many hockey players have not used a homophobic slur in the past? This opens a door than may never be closed. I'm not a fan of Peters, but him getting sacked for something that was done a decade ago is just bad business IMO.

We can not compare our lives in private business with the world of sports and entertainment. When you rely on the public to buy tickets or not buy tickets you cannot have the perception that you are ok with racial or sexist slurs being thrown around by your employees. Personal conduct and that term of conduct detrimental are clauses in contracts for a reason and I believe it would include past behaviour that is not disclosed.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by flames4lifeboys

Lol wow, you have issues my dude.

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