[News] UPD: Friedman: Peters being officially removed as head coach is close

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

I believe this is what the holdup is. They have to put together an evidence package sufficient enough to fire Peters with cause, no pay, and withstand any scrutiny from an Alberta court if it ever came to the unlikely event of a wrongful dismissal suit.

Also, when you are effecting a persons lively hood, the right thing to do is to deliberate, even if the right choice is obvious.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

I believe this is what the holdup is. They have to put together an evidence package sufficient enough to fire Peters with cause, no pay, and withstand any scrutiny from an Alberta court if it ever came to the unlikely event of a wrongful dismissal suit.

This, except then they present him and his representation with the evidence, and say "we can either go to the mat or you can take this cheque (much smaller than he'd get otherwise) and clear out your desk now with as little fuss and as little further damage on your record as possible".

[1Nite]

This is a tough situation for a all ready fragile team, hope Treliving is thorough but hope a decision is made as asap, not drag on and drag the team down further. If it is true, I would hope that Peters would contact Aliu and apologize to him.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Incogneto

Peters (like Babcock) is a bad guy. I expect the team to go on a run now that his black cloud has been lifted.

...Some of the stories from Carolina were inexcusable, too. I know from a very good source that they team HATED him. (Mod can PM me for source).

What were some of the stories? Just curious.

[Delthefunky]

Gotta wait until Friday. I find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Wow.
Really disappointing. Not in the decision. That's the right call.
Disappointed in Peters.

Me too. I know the team's had a rocky 1/4 to start the season. But I really believed with the right players he could have gotten the team where it needed to be. Last season was one of the best ever. I thought it was only a matter of time before they started clicking again.

But in the year 2019, there is absolutely no room for racism in this country. 5, 10, 20 years ago. Doesn't matter. It's one thing if he would have apologized to Akim immediately after in his office. I could live with the team keeping him on board if he showed remorse right after. Instead, he drops more racism right to the kid's face. People at that age don't change. If they do, they are definitely the outliers and those are few and far in between.

Canada for the most part is a pretty tolerant society. But there's still people stuck with racist mentalities. You could even see in on some CP members in the other BP thread or anytime race discussions pop up. Sadly it's never going to go away. But thankfully the good outweights the bad.

Absolutely the right decision to let him go. And this coming from a huge Peters fan.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by La Flames Fan

Haven't seen this posted...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1199346525022773248

Get on it Tre - it's an embarrassment to the organization.

It was posted in the other thread early this AM.

[Sgrath]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I don't know how old you are, but its not like 10 years ago was 1955. It wouldn't have blown over 10 years ago if it came out.

Which poses the questions; why wasn't it dealt with 10 years ago? How much did the CHI organisation know? Is the AHL's grievance process effective?

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by Sgrath

Which poses the questions; why wasn't it dealt with 10 years ago? How much did the CHI organisation know? Is the AHL's grievance process effective?

Nobody said anything 10 years ago.

[Lanny_McDonald]

I really hate the standard this is about to set. If Peters has not said anything like this while coaching the Flames then there is no grounds for termination - other than his ####ty coaching. How many people are going to get railroaded because they used bad language in the past? How many hockey players have not used a homophobic slur in the past? This opens a door than may never be closed. I'm not a fan of Peters, but him getting sacked for something that was done a decade ago is just bad business IMO.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Sgrath

Which poses the questions; why wasn't it dealt with 10 years ago? How much did the CHI organisation know? Is the AHL's grievance process effective?

They released a statement this morning saying this is the first they have heard of the allegations

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by New Era

I really hate the standard this is about to set. If Peters has not said anything like this while coaching the Flames then there is no grounds for termination - other than his ####ty coaching. How many people are going to get railroaded because they used bad language in the past? How many hockey players have not used a homophobic slur in the past? This opens a door than may never be closed. I'm not a fan of Peters, but him getting sacked for something that was done a decade ago is just bad business IMO.

I gotta say I can never predict which way you are going to lean.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by New Era

I really hate the standard this is about to set. If Peters has not said anything like this while coaching the Flames then there is no grounds for termination - other than his ####ty coaching. How many people are going to get railroaded because they used bad language in the past? How many hockey players have not used a homophobic slur in the past? This opens a door than may never be closed. I'm not a fan of Peters, but him getting sacked for something that was done a decade ago is just bad business IMO.

Why would anyone want to close that door again?

[Wolfman]

Cue the circus music

[Sgrath]

Originally Posted by rohara66

Nobody said anything 10 years ago.

That's my point, sorry was being a bit obtuse. Why didn't anyone say anything, 10 years ago the US had elected a black president. How the hell has hockey managed to have this f'd up culture for so long?

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by New Era

I really hate the standard this is about to set. If Peters has not said anything like this while coaching the Flames then there is no grounds for termination - other than his ####ty coaching. How many people are going to get railroaded because they used bad language in the past? How many hockey players have not used a homophobic slur in the past? This opens a door than may never be closed. I'm not a fan of Peters, but him getting sacked for something that was done a decade ago is just bad business IMO.

Good. Open that door and out every single person.

N-bomb = racist
F-bomb = bad language

There's a ####ing difference.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by New Era

I really hate the standard this is about to set. If Peters has not said anything like this while coaching the Flames then there is no grounds for termination - other than his ####ty coaching. How many people are going to get railroaded because they used bad language in the past? How many hockey players have not used a homophobic slur in the past? This opens a door than may never be closed. I'm not a fan of Peters, but him getting sacked for something that was done a decade ago is just bad business IMO.

A player using a slur in the heat of the moment on the ice is totally different than a coach saying it multiple times to a 20 year old.

This is nothing new. If you said heinous racist #### 10 years ago and you’re a public figure, expect bad things to happen.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Canada for the most part is a pretty tolerant society. But there's still people stuck with racist mentalities. You could even see in on some CP members in the other BP thread or anytime race discussions pop up. Sadly it's never going to go away. But thankfully the good outweights the bad.

Agreed with everything. I think we need to appreciate how advance Canada is while acknowledging how far we still have to go. Just try having a conversation with many Albertans if you try to argue that "No, not all First Nations only care about money."

You could probably find several posts on this very board that if you replaced Indigenous/First Nation/Native/Indian with Jew and you would have thought that it came from a Neo-Nazi forum and the racist greedy stereotype of Jewish people.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

If Peters admitted to it immediately, expressed regret, contacted Aliu and apologized, would BT say they’re still investigating? If Aliu accepted his apology, could Peters stay?

[DJones]

Yep sounds like sportsnet blew their load early.

Probably still inevitable he's fired but it's not official

https://streamable.com/vowrq