11-26-2019, 09:30 AM
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#481
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Wes Gilbertson
@WesGilbertson
Sean McMorrow played for Peters in 2008-09 season in Rockford ...
Sean McMorrow @sheriffmcmorrow
If you think Mike Commodore had harsh words for Babcock you are in for a treat to hear what I would have to say about Bill Peters ... Worst human being to ever coach me ... treated me terrible on a AHL team (IceHogs) where I won a League Award for Community Service. #badguy
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Just for context, McMorrow was a goon who played 25 games in the AHL that year (and nowhere else) and had a zero stat line, sandwiched in between seasons in the LNAH (where he had 4 points and 527 pms) and the British Elite league (where he had 6 points and 310 pms). I'm darn sure Peters was hard on him, but it probably was because he was a poor hockey player.
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11-26-2019, 09:31 AM
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#482
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
I'm of the opinion even if there aren't more accusations of racism, but more players come out and say he was an abusive gaslighter ect, they should let him go. How does the NHL believably contribute to anti-bullying campaigns if the league employs a bunch of sociopaths masquerading as coaches and GMs.
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Coaching attracts a certain kind of psycho. There are some people who think being a psycho IS the job. They usually don't last as long.
Meanwhile, to reiterate.
White people can't say the N-word. Not only can we not say it, why would we want to? There's no salient point being made that just needs one extra N-word to truly resonate.
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11-26-2019, 09:35 AM
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#483
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Just for context, McMorrow was a goon who played 25 games in the AHL that year (and nowhere else) and had a zero stat line, sandwiched in between seasons in the LNAH (where he had 4 points and 527 pms) and the British Elite league (where he had 6 points and 310 pms). I'm darn sure Peters was hard on him, but it probably was because he was a poor hockey player.
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That sounds less like context and more like victim blaming.
He sucked so it was okay if (and yes, right now that's an IF), Peters treated him like crap?
Please.
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11-26-2019, 09:36 AM
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#484
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Wait. You weren't in the same class with that poster? What are the odds? I thought we all had identical shared experiences?
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The point is if you thought it was okay at the time or not.
I’ve heard lots of derogatory jokes/comments, using the N word, when I was younger. Never once did I think it was acceptable however.
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11-26-2019, 09:38 AM
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#485
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Depending on how the NHL's investigation goes, I could see the Flames being penalized by the league in some way. I understand this didn't happen when Peters was with the Flames but he is Oliver Kylington's coach right now. So, the potential for more current incidents being discovered is there.
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lololololololololololloolololololololololol 
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11-26-2019, 09:38 AM
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#486
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
The NHL took a pick away from the New Jersey Devils for the Kovalchuk contract. Although, that was obviously for cap circumvention and not off-ice conduct.
If it turns out that the Flames knew about this or there were future incidents that occurred while Peters was with the Flames, I believe the Flames would at least get a hefty fine. Especially if this becomes a media ####storm.
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As you admit yourself, the Kovalchuk thing is completely different from the Peters thing. You're trying to make apple juice using oranges.
I'm not sure what you are even trying to get at here. There's no reason for the league to fine the Flames for the actions of its coach back when he wasn't with the team or even in the NHL. Hell, if the NHL tried, the Flames would probably have a strong legal position from which to challenge such an attempt. It just seems like you really want to push a narrative where the league hates the Flames.
If these allegations are true, Peters will get fired and he'll never coach in the NHL again. That's as far as it will go from the league's perspective.
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11-26-2019, 09:38 AM
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#487
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
That sounds less like context and more like victim blaming.
He sucked so it was okay if (and yes, right now that's an IF), Peters treated him like crap?
Please.
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It's not victim blaming at all. If there was something untoward done fine. But all McMorrow has said was that he was treated badly. Crappy hockey player says coach treated him badly? That's not exactly news. That's Bowman stuff. If it rises to what Aliu is alleging, or what Commodore says about Babcock, or even what Hartley was accused of, let me know.
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11-26-2019, 09:38 AM
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#488
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
The point is if you thought it was okay at the time or not.
I’ve heard lots of derogatory jokes/comments, using the N word, when I was younger. Never once did I think it was acceptable however.
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Yeah, but you're a 6 year old.
10 years ago, before you were born, it was perfectly acceptable.
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11-26-2019, 09:38 AM
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#489
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Just for context, McMorrow was a goon who played 25 games in the AHL that year (and nowhere else) and had a zero stat line, sandwiched in between seasons in the LNAH (where he had 4 points and 527 pms) and the British Elite league (where he had 6 points and 310 pms). I'm darn sure Peters was hard on him, but it probably was because he was a poor hockey player.
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...yeah, none of that makes it okay.
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11-26-2019, 09:39 AM
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#490
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
...yeah, none of that makes it okay.
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Makes what OK?
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11-26-2019, 09:40 AM
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#491
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
The point is if you thought it was okay at the time or not.
I’ve heard lots of derogatory jokes/comments, using the N word, when I was younger. Never once did I think it was acceptable however.
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I didn't say it was acceptable. I said I heard it on a near daily basis. I still cringe about thinking 'n**** rigged' was actually how to say you Macgyver something haha. Heard that for years and it didn't sink in what it actually meant.
Last edited by DJones; 11-26-2019 at 09:42 AM.
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11-26-2019, 09:40 AM
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#492
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by DJones
I didn't say it was acceptable. I said I heard it on a near daily basis.
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And?
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11-26-2019, 09:43 AM
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#493
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
And?
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and what?
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11-26-2019, 09:44 AM
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#494
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Franchise Player
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Bill must be taking a personal day, it is almost noon in Buffalo and still no comment.
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11-26-2019, 09:45 AM
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#495
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Bill must be taking a personal day, it is almost noon in Buffalo and still no comment.
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He needs to get on this. It's pretty simple stuff for him to answer. The longer it goes the more likely it is that something happened and he's having to craft the best response he can. Or that he's negotiating his exit.
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11-26-2019, 09:46 AM
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#496
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Draft Pick
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Know people in the Org, he is gone, they looking for replacement right now, will promote Geoff Ward to acting Coach today.
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11-26-2019, 09:46 AM
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#497
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Bill must be taking a personal day, it is almost noon in Buffalo and still no comment.
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I wouldn’t expect to hear anything from him until after the Flames skate.
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11-26-2019, 09:47 AM
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#498
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Coaching attracts a certain kind of psycho. There are some people who think being a psycho IS the job. They usually don't last as long.
Meanwhile, to reiterate.
White people can't say the N-word. Not only can we not say it, why would we want to? There's no salient point being made that just needs one extra N-word to truly resonate.
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Leonardo DiCaprio said it in Django unchained... And I tink was nominated for awards.
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11-26-2019, 09:47 AM
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#499
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: West of Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Wes Gilbertson
@WesGilbertson
Sean McMorrow played for Peters in 2008-09 season in Rockford ...
Sean McMorrow @sheriffmcmorrow
If you think Mike Commodore had harsh words for Babcock you are in for a treat to hear what I would have to say about Bill Peters ... Worst human being to ever coach me ... treated me terrible on a AHL team (IceHogs) where I won a League Award for Community Service. #badguy
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This kind of stuff NEEDS to be taken with a grain of salt...when you coach any high level sports for this long there are going to be players that don't like you no matter who you are.
Focus on the Aliu incident and did he or didn't he or if there are other similar incidents...not POTENTIALLY bitter ex players who were treated "terrible". Be a lengthy list for all NHL coaches I am thinking.
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11-26-2019, 09:48 AM
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#500
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I wouldn’t expect to hear anything from him until after the Flames skate.
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I wonder if Bill runs the skate today or the bench tomorrow...
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Makes what OK?
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The quality of the player on the ice provides zero context to how someone is personally treated, or at least it should have no impact.
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