If you're talking about the A&E production - I saw it. Not bad. Carey Elwes (Princess Bride guy) plays Bundy and he's OK. Bruce Greenwood is very good in it though. For a television production its a pretty good film.
He may be referring to A Stranger Beside Me, an adaptation of Ann Rule's book on Bundy. Mark Harmon played a pretty chilling Bundy, IIRC.
Actually, it was The Deliberate Stranger, a made-for-tv offering filmed in '86.
Well there are parts of that in there, but its written by a former member who was getting fairly high up in the organization. Its pretty good.
I check out the reviews on amazon.ca of that book and and all the ratings are either 1 start or 5. All the people who gave it a 1 sound like they are scientologists. Not really fair to review a book that attacks your own religion, one might be slightly biased.
I'm reading Under the Banner of Heaven right now. It's about Mormon fundamentalists. Interesting and distrubing at the same time.
I check out the reviews on amazon.ca of that book and and all the ratings are either 1 start or 5. All the people who gave it a 1 sound like they are scientologists. Not really fair to review a book that attacks your own religion, one might be slightly biased.
I'm reading Under the Banner of Heaven right now. It's about Mormon fundamentalists. Interesting and distrubing at the same time.
{insert religion here} Fundamentalists are disturbing.
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[B]Jan 24 1848
Gold is discovered in California. Few initially believe the claim, and the "California Gold Rush" won't truly begin until President James K. Polk confirms the discovery in December -- 11 months later.
According to a book I recently read called The Canadian Hockey Atlas, by Stephen Cole, the California Gold Rush was triggered when nuggets were found at Sutter's Farm. According to Cole, the Sutter who owned Sutter's Farm was a Gen. Johan Augustus Sutter, and he was the great-great uncle of Darryl and the rest of the Sutter brothers. I thought that was kind of a cool bit of historical trivia.
{insert religion here} Fundamentalists are disturbing.
True. But the whole Mormon religion is a little disturbing for me. As a rule of thumb I don't give much credit to religions that have been read out of a hat.
wasn't he one of those serial killers with an alarmingly high IQ? they made a movie aboot this guy recently, anyone know if it's worth watching?
Ted Bundy was brilliant, he acted as his own lawyer during his trial, and the judge lamented that he would have made a good attorney, then sent him to the chair.
Bundy was a different kind of serial killer, he was outwardly very normal and good looking, he was charming and articulate, and didn't seem to have any outfacing sexual perversions, he got caught because he also had an huge ego that pushed him to take more and more risks.
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if christianity in general had no provable history and was 'read out of a hat' as it were, it wouldn't lead me to be any more or less scared of pat robertson and the christian coalition, who advocate a blank cheque for israel to bring aboot the end-times.
actions speak louder, and the majority of mormons you run across are incredibly nice and don't organize political movements to end the ****ing world. would they if they were a majority? i guess that's possible, as political movements typically infiltrate religious institutions and twist them to their will.
i was at london drugs a couple weekends ago helping my buddy buy a microwave and while strolling through the computer section i pointed out and laughed at one of these 'saty behind' computer games, with captions that read 'destroy the unbeliever' (paraphrase) etc. and not 10 seconds after i replaced it on the shelf this guy comes along showing it to his friend, 'yeah we're all going to heaven like next week'...
these 'ejection seat christians' hell bent on 'moving things along' should read some history, the schoffield bible came out luike a century ago and the world is still here - mess it up enough and you'll be stuck with the rest of us.
I check out the reviews on amazon.ca of that book and and all the ratings are either 1 start or 5. All the people who gave it a 1 sound like they are scientologists. Not really fair to review a book that attacks your own religion, one might be slightly biased.
I'm reading Under the Banner of Heaven right now. It's about Mormon fundamentalists. Interesting and distrubing at the same time.
There is a long on-going smear campaign against the authour and the book. Scientologists do everything in their power to prevent people from reading the book or taking it seriously.
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if christianity in general had no provable history and was 'read out of a hat' as it were, it wouldn't lead me to be any more or less scared of pat robertson and the christian coalition, who advocate a blank cheque for israel to bring aboot the end-times.
The reason Mormonism creation is so critized is because it is so new and is in the age of printing machines and accurate historical records. I am sure Christianity went through the same thing, but now lots of the knowledge of the phrophet/saviour is lost. Unlike Joesph Smith which writings of him still survive today, who is known to have had a hundred children some of them from wives that were 14 years old. Anways. Christians that are for stronger nuclear armament just baffels my mind.
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actions speak louder, and the majority of mormons you run across are incredibly nice and don't organize political movements to end the ****ing world. would they if they were a majority? i guess that's possible, as political movements typically infiltrate religious institutions and twist them to their will.
Oh, I agree mormons are typically terribly nice people. Basically why they don't push the armageddon stuff is because of their outlook. My understanding is that they have the frame of mind that "we're right and going to heaven. Everyone is wrong and going to hell and it's their fault for not seeing the light, not our wrong for not showing it to them."
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i was at london drugs a couple weekends ago helping my buddy buy a microwave and while strolling through the computer section i pointed out and laughed at one of these 'saty behind' computer games, with captions that read 'destroy the unbeliever' (paraphrase) etc. and not 10 seconds after i replaced it on the shelf this guy comes along showing it to his friend, 'yeah we're all going to heaven like next week'...
these 'ejection seat christians' hell bent on 'moving things along' should read some history, the schoffield bible came out luike a century ago and the world is still here - mess it up enough and you'll be stuck with the rest of us.
Was this guy at Lodon drugs joking? I recall a lecture I watched from Sam Harris that talked about 30% of Americans believe the end of days will happen within their lifetime and another 30% believed it would happen either in their lifetime or in the next 50 years. Scary stuff.
There is a long on-going smear campaign against the authour and the book. Scientologists do everything in their power to prevent people from reading the book or taking it seriously.
I'm not really surpised, that typically seems to be the way they operate when someone challenges them. Reminds me of that South Park episode.
Kyle - Scientology is just a big world wide scam.
Scienotogists - Oh, we are going to sue you!
Jan 22 1987
The State Treasurer of Pennsylvania, R. Budd Dwyer, proclaims his innocence to fraud charges at a crowded press conferences and then pulls a gun out of an envelope and blows his brains out.
This incident is what the Filter song Hey Man, Nice Shot is based on.
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Jan 25 1485
The Chief Inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition, Peter Arbues, was bludgeoned from behind as he pray inside the cathedral at Saragossa, Spain. A fortnight later blood of the martyr liquefied on the floor of the cathedral -- a miracle! -- and numerous testimonies of healing occurring at his coffinside. The Catholic church canonized this brutal man in 1867.
Jan 25 1947
The infamous mobster Al Capone dead in Florida, his mind in dementia from long untreated syphilis. Capone was Alcatrazed for eight years of his eleven year sentence for tax evasion, but had to be released due to deteriorating health.
Jan 25 1960
Actress Diana Barrymore commits suicide with alcohol and sleeping pills.
Jan 25 1971
Idi Amin Dada, everybody's favorite tyrant, comes to power in Uganda.
Jan 25 1971
Charles Manson and three of his followers are convicted in Los Angeles of the Tate and LaBianca murders. All were sentenced to the gas chamber, with sentences commuted to life imprisonment when the death penalty was temporarily abolished.
Jan 25 1980
Beatle Paul McCartney is deported from Japan for possession of nearly a half pound of marijuana. It is Paul's third pot bust and his second deportation, an earlier one occurring in Germany 20 years previously after setting fire to a condom.
Jan 25 1990
Avianca Flight 52, a Boeing 707 from Colombia, runs out of fuel over Cove Neck, New York. The crash splits the plane into four pieces and scatters bodies throughout the wreckage. 73 of the 161 passengers die, nobody on the ground is hurt.
Jan 25 1993
Sears announces that, after 97 years, it will close its catalog sales department.
Jan 25 1993
Pakistani Mir Aimal Kasi fires a rifle at CIA headquarters parking lot at rush hour in Langley, VA, killing two agents and wounding three others. Kasi wanted to punish the U.S. for acting against Iraq during the Gulf War, and other acts against unspecified islamic countries.
Jan 25 1994
Michael Jackson pays $10M in an out of court settlement to the family of 14 year old Jordy Chandler, who accused him of child molestation. Quote from the affidavit, citing May 1993 as the time period: "That's when the whole thing really got out of hand. We took a bath together. This was the first time that we had seen each other naked. Michael Jackson named certain of his children friends who had masturbated in front of him."
Jan 25 1994
Michael Jackson pays $10M in an out of court settlement to the family of 14 year old Jordy Chandler, who accused him of child molestation. Quote from the affidavit, citing May 1993 as the time period: "That's when the whole thing really got out of hand. We took a bath together. This was the first time that we had seen each other naked. Michael Jackson named certain of his children friends who had masturbated in front of him."
Again I have to ask: why was there someone who would assassinate John Lennon, yet nobody will step up to the plate and off this freak? Why is he allowed to live?
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Jan 25 1485
The Chief Inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition, Peter Arbues, was bludgeoned from behind as he pray inside the cathedral at Saragossa, Spain. A fortnight later blood of the martyr liquefied on the floor of the cathedral -- a miracle! -- and numerous testimonies of healing occurring at his coffinside. The Catholic church canonized this brutal man in 1867.
hey martin luther and his buddy (can't remember the dude's name) wrote 'the book' on witches, and proceeded to clean out entire german towns of women as under torture they fingered each other as having had congress with the beast... i just don't see the catholic shurch as anything but the vehicle by which the rich/powerful dominated the ignorant/poor masses. i talk to people all the time that carry some kind of grudge against the vatican, boy are they missing the point!
torture is aboot as effective as now, with every 'insurgent' in iraq being 'al quaeda' suddenly!
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Jan 25 1947
The infamous mobster Al Capone dead in Florida, his mind in dementia from long untreated syphilis. Capone was Alcatrazed for eight years of his eleven year sentence for tax evasion, but had to be released due to deteriorating health.
i've heard his cell is on the alcatraz tour, definitely something i want to check out - a real piece of north american history. capone is one of the most notorious names of all time, a very interesting dude.
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Jan 25 1960
Actress Diana Barrymore commits suicide with alcohol and sleeping pills.
related to drew barrymore i assume? hollywood is pretty dynastic.
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Jan 25 1971
Idi Amin Dada, everybody's favorite tyrant, comes to power in Uganda.
anyone see the new movie 'last king of scotland'? i'll probably check it out this weekend. amin died pretty recently, he was hiding out in exile in saudi arabia if i recall. probably had a price on his head.
i saw a documentary aboot the dude where they interviewed his commanding officer, who had promoted him to be the first black officer in uganda's army. he took idi to town, got him a bank account and a chequebook, told him to get a good suit etc.
amin showed up the next day with a new suit, a new car, a new house - he just kept writing cheques! kind of sums up how he ran his country...
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Jan 25 1971
Charles Manson and three of his followers are convicted in Los Angeles of the Tate and LaBianca murders. All were sentenced to the gas chamber, with sentences commuted to life imprisonment when the death penalty was temporarily abolished.
the manson family - if you had to personify 1960s suburban america's fear of the drug culture they would be exhibit A.
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Jan 25 1980
Beatle Paul McCartney is deported from Japan for possession of nearly a half pound of marijuana. It is Paul's third pot bust and his second deportation, an earlier one occurring in Germany 20 years previously after setting fire to a condom.
i read an interview with bob dylan in which he claimed to be turned onto drugs by mccartney and lennon, interesting!
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Jan 25 1990
Avianca Flight 52, a Boeing 707 from Colombia, runs out of fuel over Cove Neck, New York. The crash splits the plane into four pieces and scatters bodies throughout the wreckage. 73 of the 161 passengers die, nobody on the ground is hurt.
sounds like a softer landing than most... although without fuel there's no fireball so they had that going for them.
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Jan 25 1993
Sears announces that, after 97 years, it will close its catalog sales department.
what? i'm sure i've seen sears catalogs since then!
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Jan 25 1993
Pakistani Mir Aimal Kasi fires a rifle at CIA headquarters parking lot at rush hour in Langley, VA, killing two agents and wounding three others. Kasi wanted to punish the U.S. for acting against Iraq during the Gulf War, and other acts against unspecified islamic countries.
i hadn't heard of this but my first instinct is ISI, some kind of intelligence agency internal conflict.
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Jan 25 1994
Michael Jackson pays $10M in an out of court settlement to the family of 14 year old Jordy Chandler, who accused him of child molestation. Quote from the affidavit, citing May 1993 as the time period: "That's when the whole thing really got out of hand. We took a bath together. This was the first time that we had seen each other naked. Michael Jackson named certain of his children friends who had masturbated in front of him."
what i will forever be mystified by in this case... is why were parents continuing to send children to neverland after this became 'a thing'? were they hoping to cash in? that is disturbing.
i'm not even convinced that michael jackson is technically a pederast, it's possible that he's replacing the childhood he had in a VERY creepy way. but regardless the man should not be allowed around any children, not sure exactly whose total responsibility that is, but first and foremost the parents of said children!
hey martin luther and his buddy (can't remember the dude's name) wrote 'the book' on witches, and proceeded to clean out entire german towns of women as under torture they fingered each other as having had congress with the beast... i just don't see the catholic shurch as anything but the vehicle by which the rich/powerful dominated the ignorant/poor masses. i talk to people all the time that carry some kind of grudge against the vatican, boy are they missing the point!
That's a pretty good point. the Catholic Church often gets nailed with the "witch hunt", when in fact, most witch trials were conducted by protestants and reformists. This myth was made larger by the book/movie "The D'avinci Code" which tries to legitimize it's claim of woman hate, by pinning the witch hunts on Catholics.
Don't get me wrong, the Catholic Church has done a lot to be frowned upon, but a lot of it is just legend as well.
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No, it was actually based on Buddy Dwyer. And I heard that the guy from Filter actually wrote it while at attendance of the the 1st Lollopalooza. They showed the video on a big screen, and it inspired him to write the song (long before Kurt Cobain killed himself).
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