Conversatives to repeal Daylight Savings Time in Alberta

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Nearly every post in this thread:



As for Westjet and hockey teams, their argument is simply to stay in line with the others - CA, BC, and WA should be enough of a critical mass. Even if the east didn't adopt this change for a while, it would be a net benefit for the hockey teams (really Rogers) - eastern road games starting at 6pm Calgary time would get more viewers than current 5pm starts.

All airlines will have a headache for the years it takes to achieve uniformity across the continent. California should be the biggest catalyst...

The biggest issue is Saturday games at 9pm and way more home games at 8:30 to satisfy Rogers weekday doubleheaders.

[Ducay]

I don't care if you go with the Daylight time or the standard time, for the love of god just get rid of the time change.

Those with small kids understand the struggle. I did not enjoy the last 2 weeks of kids up at 530am or earlier.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I don't care if you go with the Daylight time or the standard time, for the love of god just get rid of the time change.

Those with small kids understand the struggle. I did not enjoy the last 2 weeks of kids up at 530am or earlier.

Actually even those that simply have clocks understand the pain. Especially if they don't have a DST adjustment button.

[Jimmy Stang]

Nothing is going to happen with this until something happens on the national/continental level, or at least a chunk of provinces/states does something. And the UCP knows it.

Until then, this is a well-timed political distraction and nothing more.

But since we're here - I think that it will happen eventually. Technology, the world, our lifestyles, etc. have all changed since this started happening. The question isn't "if" or "should we", but rather whether DST or standard time should be adopted. Then we just wait a few years or decades for the different jurisdictions to coordinate it. Easy.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

The biggest issue is Saturday games at 9pm and way more home games at 8:30 to satisfy Rogers weekday doubleheaders.

Is it by default that we'll be doing daylight savings time, rather than standard time?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Is it by default that we'll be doing daylight savings time, rather than standard time?

Based on their two choice "feedback" form, yes. The only two choices are to keep switching or stay on DST year-round.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I don't care if you go with the Daylight time or the standard time, for the love of god just get rid of the time change.

Those with small kids understand the struggle. I did not enjoy the last 2 weeks of kids up at 530am or earlier.

Fall back before you have kids... Fantastic. After... not so much.

[Cube Inmate]

The key with kids is to be wildly inconsistent parents year-round, changing their bedtimes based on how lazy you feel, how loud they're being, how badly you want to extend your after dinner nap, etc. Then, when the time change happens, it's just business as usual.

If anyone subjects me to 9:50 am sunrises in December, or takes away my 9:50 pm sunsets in late June, I'm going to be pissed off.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Cube Inmate

The key with kids is to be wildly inconsistent parents year-round, changing their bedtimes based on how lazy you feel, how loud they're being, how badly you want to extend your after dinner nap, etc. Then, when the time change happens, it's just business as usual.

If anyone subjects me to 9:50 am sunrises in December, or takes away my 9:50 pm sunsets in late June, I'm going to be pissed off.

That's the thing, there's such big drawbacks to sticking with either time full time, but I understand that is outweighed by changing twice a year if you're a parent of young kids.

I definitely wouldn't want o give up the later sunsets during summer. That's such a huge plus of living up here. Starting an evening round of golf is glorious, or just hanging out in the light on a warm summer evening.

On the other hand, the flip side of that is that would be some savage, cold dark mornings during the winter.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

We should switch to an incremental switch system.

30 mins 4 times a year. Or maybe 15 mins 8 times a year.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by jayswin

On the other hand, the flip side of that is that would be some savage, cold dark mornings during the winter.

Probably true for many people, but I'm not sure there is anything more depressing than seeing the sun peek above the horizon the moment before you open the door to your workplace...only to see the sun again for less than a minute before it sets when you walk back out that same door ~9 hrs later. One reason I always get myself outside at lunch time no matter how miserable it is outside!

I get that driving to/fro work during civil twilight probably has safety benefits compared to complete darkness, but it seems like a really marginal daily difference for the 60-90 darkest days of the year, compared to a week of statistically significant chaos for a week after each clock change.

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

We should switch to an incremental switch system.

30 mins 4 times a year. Or maybe 15 mins 8 times a year.

20 seconds 180 times a year, then 20 seconds /day the other way back!

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

20 seconds 180 times a year, then 20 seconds /day the other way back!

Now the ideas are really flowing. How about the work day starts at sunrise and lasts 8 hours no matter the time of year? Maximum sun in the evenings!

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[Cecil Terwilliger]

I know this couldn’t work because of the rest of the world but with all the discussion surrounding time standard vs savings time, maybe we should split the difference and only move by 30 minutes permanently.

[Manhattanboy]

I would keep DST or switch to MDT full time. So nice in the summer to be able to golf, bike, run etc well into the evening.

Personally the time change has never bothered me. I kinda like it, you experience the change of the seasons.

[squiggs96]

Several have commented they don’t like switching because they have young children. If that’s your only reason for not wanting to switch, it makes no sense. Why give up 75 years of appropriate sunlight because your kid gets up at a slightly different time of the morning for 5 years of your life? I’ve also met kids. In no way do they sleep and wake up at the exact same time each day.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Several have commented they don’t like switching because they have young children. If that’s your only reason for not wanting to switch, it makes no sense. Why give up 75 years of appropriate sunlight because your kid gets up at a slightly different time of the morning for 5 years of your life? I’ve also met kids. In no way do they sleep and wake up at the exact same time each day.

Ah, nothing beats parenting views from someone without kids.


Next fall, send me your address and I'll have my kids come over at 5am when they wake up to come harass you. See how you feel about the time change then.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Several have commented they don’t like switching because they have young children. If that’s your only reason for not wanting to switch, it makes no sense. Why give up 75 years of appropriate sunlight because your kid gets up at a slightly different time of the morning for 5 years of your life? I’ve also met kids. In no way do they sleep and wake up at the exact same time each day.

Who has said it's their only reason?

Do you have any other sage parenting advice?

[ken0042]

I think there is a valid point in asking, how many years will your kids be so young that they have trouble with a time change? Compared with how many years will there be a safety issue with them going to school in the dark? Currently sunrise is after 8:00 am from November 20-Feb 8. Keep us on MDT and that gives us 2.5 months of sunrise after 9:00; and about 40 of those days are after 9:30.

We already have city council talking about lowering speed limits for pedestrian safety. Do we really want to give them an actual reason? That means 5-6 years of them getting up early for a week; assuming you didn't start adjusting their bedtime beforehand. Compared to 10 years of them going to school in the dark for 5-6 weeks. (Counting 2 weeks off for Christmas.)

[Slava]

I have kids, but it's not a reason that I think we should stop changing the clocks. It's just completely pointless and there's nothing gained. Make the final switch to DST and call it a day. There's no reason to switch back to MST from there.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Ah, nothing beats parenting views from someone without kids.

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Do you have any other sage parenting advice?

Oh I just love this gatekeeping bulls--t, it never ever gets tiring.