[PGT] Flames 0 - Blues 5

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by getbak

I miss the post-game meteorological updates.

Does she have any sad forecasts we can use after losses?

[djsFlames]

When they finally pull through it I don't see them allowing this sort of stretch of hockey to happen again for a long time because they're going to pinpoint exactly what makes this group click.

This could be when they find honest answers to those look yourself in the mirror questions. If the flames become successful down the road, this is likely the stretch that they'll refer back to as a key time in diagnosing whats missing to take a step beyond mediocrity.

It's so uncharacteristically bad of a start for so many good players that I don't see how they don't learn some important lessons about overcoming adversity.

Could very well be a blessing in disguise. See, it's playing merely average hockey where nothing is really learned because its not far enough to any extreme to reflect on. Now they're being forced to figure out some tough #### and it's both important and necessary.

I just look at how the 8 or 9 game losing streak in 2014 springboarded a rather poor roster and how great Johnny and Sean were down the stretch after they figured it out. If you can get that finish out a roster that had so many fringe level players, think of what this will do for a significantly more talented team.

Wait out the storm. It'll be over sooner or later.

[Bingo]

Game Takes:
Blues 5 Flames 0

- Flames now shooting 2.5% in their last six games
- losing streak stretches to six
- 40 shots but the Blues had more blue chip chances

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Kinda early for fans to be giving up on the season but... I don't blame any who do.

Once American Thanksgiving hits, 77% of the teams holding a playoff spot will get into the playoffs... everyone else only has a 23% chance to get a playoff spot

[keenan87]

Craig Berube thinks their team could have played better in the defensive zone. That's pretty funny as the Flames still couldn't get a goal.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

Once American Thanksgiving hits, 77% of the teams holding a playoff spot will get into the playoffs... everyone else only has a 23% chance to get a playoff spot

weren't the blues absolutely terrible before christmas last season? And out of it at american thanksgiving?

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Craig Berube thinks their team could have played better in the defensive zone. That's pretty funny as the Flames still couldn't get a goal.

One team is the defending SC champs, whose core understands what it takes to win.

the other team is as soft as baby poop

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

There must be a rift in the team that has soured the whole thing.

I've heard credible rumours that someone on the Flames may be perhaps a lockeroom cancer.

Maybe.

Perhaps.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Craig Berube thinks their team could have played better in the defensive zone. That's pretty funny as the Flames still couldn't get a goal.

Classic case of playing down to your competition .

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

I've heard credible rumours that someone on the Flames may be perhaps a lockeroom cancer.

Maybe.

Perhaps.

IS IT JAMES NEAL?

No?

Oh.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

No knee jerk reaction trades, please.

I know this sucks, but the worst thing this organization could do is get snookered in a trade since we'd be trading from a major point of weakness. Other teams know the Flames are desperate right now, don't make bad deals just to make a deal.

If they tank, tank hard. Trade some major pieces in the off season, re-tool and go from there. There are some nice young pieces (especially on the blueline), if the Flames make some decent trades they could be a good team again as early as next season.

Just try not to get to depressed watching it play out, and load up on lots of booze.

I mostly agree with this, but I think it's clear that the handedness imbalance in our top six / top 9 is a huge contributor to these annual slumps. Assuming we are able to add one of the top two talents in this year's draft, there's no imminent fix and we could end up botching the development of a player like Byfield or Lafreniere the way we have with Sam Bennett. Balancing out the handedness, even if it means a Monahan, Backlund, or Gaudreau needs to go if we are able to acquire a top draft pick, should be on the table.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

weren't the blues absolutely terrible before christmas last season? And out of it at american thanksgiving?

yup... until they fired their coach and found a guy that was 6th on the goalie depth chart turned into a star...

not to mention the blues are the only team in NHL history to go from last place at the beginning of January to SC champs...

Last year's Blues were a Unicorn's Unicorn

[Sainters7]

I can't even believe this is the same team that finished 1st in the West last year..mind-bottling

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

weren't the blues absolutely terrible before christmas last season? And out of it at american thanksgiving?

Yes, the Blues had an absolutely epic AND historic run to pull them selves out. But that is merely a big fat exception.

After US thanksgiving if a team is still floundering below the playoff line, there's a better than 70% chance that team won't make the playoffs.

[powderjunkie]

5th last in pt%. 2nd last GF/gp.

[mrdonkey]

With it being the Flames, you just know they'll suck moose balls for most of the year, and then win 10 games in a row or something just to pull them into that 13-15th overall range at the draft.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

I've heard credible rumours that someone on the Flames may be perhaps a lockeroom cancer.

Maybe.

Perhaps.

In my limited experience of playing team sports one cancerous player does not break a team. It’s a collaboration that divides the room or has wholesale disagreements with coaching.

[burn_this_city]

I knew we should have savored the success of last year, we're probably 20 years away from similar good fortune. It was a fun 60 game run while it lasted.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Karl

Yes, the Blues had an absolutely epic AND historic run to pull them selves out. But that is merely a big fat exception.

After US thanksgiving if a team is still floundering below the playoff line, there's a better than 70% chance that team won't make the playoffs.

Based on the way the team is playing right now, that 30% sounds pretty good.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Assuming we are able to add one of the top two talents in this year's draft, there's no imminent fix and we could end up botching the development of a player like Byfield or Lafreniere the way we have with Sam Bennett.

Not sure I agree with this part. I don't think they botched Sam's development, I think he's just a player that thinks he could play the same way in junior and not have to adapt, thinking he could still play the same offensive game. His hockey IQ isn't very high, either. Looking back I think he's one of those players who looks great in junior but who couldn't put it together in the NHL. It happens. Just sucks it happened to our franchise's highest draft pick.