Commodore hates Babcock because he didn't get playing time that we was promised--truthfully, Commodore wasn't that good of a player anyways so he shouldn't feel entitled to anything
It’s a bit more detailed than that. If you hear his version, you can understand his perspective
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Nah, his rep was made before he first was HC of Team Canada, after a deep PO runs and a Cup winner. But those were all stacked teams (as were his Team Canadas).
This is the first time he's had to work with a real rebuild. It hasn't gone well.
To be fair to Babcock it’s more a personnel issue. The Leafs D is brutal. The Barrie trade still makes no sense to me. When defence is your team’s biggest issue, why trade for an all-offence defenceman?
Commodore hates Babcock because he didn't get playing time that we was promised--truthfully, Commodore wasn't that good of a player anyways so he shouldn't feel entitled to anything
Babcock flat out lied to him though...told him to sign and he would get a chance and then didn't even do that
There are other players that hate the guy, scratched Mike Madano in what would have been his 1500th game (finished his career with 1499)
Commodore’s revulsion for Babcock dates to the 2002–03 season, after he’d been traded by New Jersey to Anaheim. Babcock was in his first season as coach of the Mighty Ducks. He sent Commodore to Cincinnati of the AHL after training camp and, according to Commodore, “carved me in the papers for not being in shape and not caring, even though I fought everyone at camp.” The Ducks called him up for a Nov. 14 game in Columbus and performed a fat–caliper test, which resulted in a gluttonous 22% reading.
“I’m playing three games in three nights all the time in Cincinnati; I’m in great shape and, suddenly, I have 22% body–fat?” recalled Commodore. “I said to the guy ‘this isn’t possible’. But, he hands in the test and Babcock gives it to me in front of the entire Anaheim team; I don’t know any of these guys. I said to him ‘go fu– yourself. Your test is fu–ed. I’m not 22% body–fat. Let’s do a real test with more than three [pinch]–points. Fu– you.’ That was it for me in Anaheim. I got traded to Calgary.” It was during the long, 2004 playoff run with the Flames that Commodore famously grew out his hair for cancer benefit, drawing admiration on both sides of the border as Calgary lost a seven–game Stanley Cup final to Tampa Bay. He would accrue similar attention in 2006, with Carolina, when the Hurricanes won their first NHL title over Edmonton.
I like the prospect of having Mike Babcock, but it's essentially like having Peters. All of Peters' mannerisms and NHL game approaches are Babcock-esque. No way. Big name be damned.
Boudreau? Why would we want another unsuccessful coach? Haven't we got enough of them?
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To wrap up the podcast, Commodore said, “I hope I never see [Babcock] again in my life. I hope people that I like never have to deal with him. He’s a scumbag. If I ran into him at a golf tournament or charity event, I’d have a tough time keeping it together. Because of his ego, he would say something to me and I would fly off the fu–ing handle; have absolutely no control. I’m not the toughest guy in the world but I’d kick the sh– out of him. If he said hello, it would be a solid ‘fu– you’ or ‘go fu– yourself’ coming right back. Immediately. And, keep my golf bag away from me because I’d probably grab a club and try to take his head off. If I could legitimately hurt him and get away with it, I’d consider doing it. But, he’s not worth jail time.”
Boudreau? Why would we want another unsuccessful coach? Haven't we got enough of them?
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This summer, Micah McCurdy developed a model to try to isolate how a coach impacts on-ice performance both offensively and defensively, and he applied this model to every NHL coach who has been in the league going back to the 2007-08 season. McCurdy’s model uses positive values to indicate offensive performance and negative values to indicate defensive performance.
Bruce Boudreau the second fastest coach in NHL history to record 500 wins. The one who has one of the worst rosters in the NHL right now? Third in all time win pct. ? He isnt a loser he has a bad roster.
*Indicates the coach is no longer with the team
This is behind the pay wall at the Athletic. They did this in Septmeber not sure if they will do an updated one. Ironically Laviolette is a bit of an outlier but he explains it a bit more on the site.
This won't be a popular opinion, but if the Flames fire Peters, which I don't they they should (yet), I would hope they hire Bruce Boudreau (assuming he is fired by the Wild at some point).
Boudreau has an extremely consistent record of making the playoffs with several different teams. At this point, I just want consistency from a year-to-year basis. Has Boudreau ever made it to the finals? No, but he has made it past round 1 many times, and that's more than we can say about the Flames.
He's second among active NHL coaches in career win percentage (among coaches with over 200 games coached). A career 63.6% over almost 1000 games is extremely impressive.
I'm just tired of the Flames hiring:
a) Young and unproven coaches
b) Older coaches without a track record of making the playoffs
Just hire a guy with an impressive resume. Maybe then the players will actually have some respect for the system.
This won't be a popular opinion, but if the Flames fire Peters, which I don't they they should (yet), I would hope they hire Bruce Boudreau (assuming he is fired by the Wild at some point).
Boudreau has an extremely consistent record of making the playoffs with several different teams. At this point, I just want consistency from a year-to-year basis. Has Boudreau ever made it to the finals? No, but he has made it past round 1 many times, and that's more than we can say about the Flames.
He's second among active NHL coaches in career win percentage (among coaches with over 200 games coached). A career 63.6% over almost 1000 games is extremely impressive.
I'm just tired of the Flames hiring:
a) Young and unproven coaches
b) Older coaches without a track record of making the playoffs
Just hire a guy with an impressive resume. Maybe then the players will actually have some respect for the system.
Me to I would be happy being like the Sharks up until this year. A consistent contender and respectable play off team. I don't even need a cup to be happy.
Babcock had completely neutered this team. They were getting nothing offensively but still getting outchanced. Players all seemed unhappy and the games were a chore to watch. Excited to see where the team goes with Keefe.
