[PGT] Back-to-back shutouts, 6-0 vgk

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by keeper34

We need James Neal

Thanks for the comedic relief in these dark times.

[Psytic]

[Vinny01]

Did my typical PVR delayed watch and gave up at 3-0 and fast forwarded to the end. Is this rock bottom?

[ricosuave]

Trade Gaudreau out east for a king's ransom...

He's your biggest asset, and biggest problem when the going gets rough.

He's no Fleury and never will be.

Philly, both NY teams, NJ, Sabres all have some very interesting pieces...

[Inferno]

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Bring porcupine Bob into the fold to trigger the players.

It worked once!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

Trade Gaudreau out east for a king's ransom...

He's your biggest asset, and biggest problem when the going gets rough.

He's no Fleury and never will be.

Let’s talk about this in June because it would be ridiculous to trade him in a slump and in season when there are so many less options.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Robo

This thought crossed my mind today I thought why do I keep cheering for this team they have been crap or mediocre for just about my entire life or as long as I can remember at least. But honestly I couldnt cheer for another team I would probably just stop following hockey if it really came down to me giving up on the team

It's tough to be a fan of Calgary since 2019 started, but there are some fantastic stories and teams to follow.

I've had a soft spot for Philly, I see a lot of similarities between Gaudreau and Giroux, plus edmonton and Pittsburgh getting 2 generational talents each.

Boston as well is a favourite of mine because #### Vancouver.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by zukes

Yup and going into tonight, guess what? They were in a playoff spot!!!

Actually they weren’t by winning percentage. They have played more games than most teams.

Right now, there are only 6 teams in the NHL with a worse record than the Flames.

And an ugly minus 10 in goal differential.


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[Gazza]

Originally Posted by zukes

Yup and going into tonight, guess what? They were in a playoff spot!!!

I do not understand this mentality.
Winning the conference last year should not mean accepting barely being in a playoff spot right now.
Accepting mediocrity is not a positive quality for success.


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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Looked like a hit to the head, but never saw a definitive angle. Concussion protocol though IMO

likely, he did return to the game

[browna]

A lot to unpack of course, but in general, the jumping up and joining of our defense into the play is seemingly non existent this year and Imo a big reason for the struggles of the forwards and fortunes of the team.

The d still pinch in the zone, but it's no longer a surprise to opponents. For whatever reason (neutralized, no confidence, etc) they aren't able to break out with speed, or are they getting the steals or turn overs at our blue line to turn the other way.

Those rushes often lead directly to a goal, but if not, they happened later in the shift as the other team was running around.

However, much more subtly, the defenseman leading the rush gave the team momentum, the forwards support and ultimately more space, and made the other team change their entry into our zone, which lead to more chances to breakdown opponents.

It was a under appreciated strategy last year, and provided a lot of juice for the team in a variety of ways, especially confidence. It is non existent this year and now our forwards don't have that speed or momentum entering the zone and able to be controlling the play from there. Our forwards especially need time and space, and without the x factor of a defenceman joining out of nowhere is a bigger issue this year then we think.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by Gazza

I do not understand this mentality.
Winning the conference last year should not mean accepting barely being in a playoff spot right now.
Accepting mediocrity is not a positive quality for success.


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It doesn’t matter what I or you or any fan accept. The team is in a slump. That is all. The 89 flames went winless in 11! Relax!

[zukes]

Originally Posted by zukes

It doesn’t matter what I or you or any fan accept. The team is in a slump. That is all. The 89 flames went winless in 11! Relax!

CP would have had Lanny traded somewhere to get him a Cup. Nieuwendyk would have been traded because all he scored was garbage goals and didn’t use his size. Loob would be traded because he was too soft....etc.

[sa226]

Maybe rock bottom is what this team needs to find out what desperation feels like. Find their identity and go on a run and never look back.

Last year they rested on their laurels post All Star break and couldn't regain traction.

Maybe this year they can gain momentumat the ride time, and ride it into April.

I actually do think the above is possible. The conversation then turns to personnel. Do they have the players required to be a contender? Thats not looking so great.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by zukes

Yup and going into tonight, guess what? They were in a playoff spot!!!

not anymore.

and all 8 teams fighting for those 2 wildcard spots have games in hand on Calgary

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by browna

A lot to unpack of course, but in general, the jumping up and joining of our defense into the play is seemingly non existent this year and Imo a big reason for the struggles of the forwards and fortunes of the team.

The d still pinch in the zone, but it's no longer a surprise to opponents. For whatever reason (neutralized, no confidence, etc) they aren't able to break out with speed, or are they getting the steals or turn overs at our blue line to turn the other way.

Those rushes often lead directly to a goal, but if not, they happened later in the shift as the other team was running around.

However, much more subtly, the defenseman leading the rush gave the team momentum, the forwards support and ultimately more space, and made the other team change their entry into our zone, which lead to more chances to breakdown opponents.

It was a under appreciated strategy last year, and provided a lot of juice for the team in a variety of ways, especially confidence. It is non existent this year and now our forwards don't have that speed or momentum entering the zone and able to be controlling the play from there. Our forwards especially need time and space, and without the x factor of a defenceman joining out of nowhere is a bigger issue this year then we think.

IMO it wasn’t under appreciated at all. The mobile D was a non factor in the Avs series (should have been our biggest advantage) and is a non factor this season.

As a group they’re not playing with a ton of confidence but also seems this is a team which struggles with adjustments. Teams came up with an approach to beat the Flames and right now it seems like Flames have no answer.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

not anymore.

and all 8 teams fighting for those 2 wildcard spots have games in hand on Calgary

True, Flames have also had one of the hardest schedules...probably the hardest in the west. They need to win some games but if they aren't completely out of it they have a pretty nice schedule in the 2nd half. (still gotta win)

If you look at all their road games so far its basically a murderers row of the toughest buildings to play in

[Lil Pedro]

The game completely changes if that Gio chance that Fleury robs him goes in. Changes the game from 2-1 to 3-0 as Pacioretty went down and scored shortly after. Lost for words at the moment with this team.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

IMO it wasn’t under appreciated at all. The mobile D was a non factor in the Avs series (should have been our biggest advantage) and is a non factor this season.

As a group they’re not playing with a ton of confidence but also seems this is a team which struggles with adjustments. Teams came up with an approach to beat the Flames and right now it seems like Flames have no answer.

Well, underappreciated in the fact of how much it took the pressure off the top forwards to have to create.

That style from our d is missing right now and had been all season, and as a result our forwards are struggling to figure out how to create the time and space that last year's strategy gave them.