"You people that come here, you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey..." Really doesn't matter whether he was talking about poppies, Tim Horton's donuts, hockey or anything else after that.
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Value has nothing to do with it. Do you make public displays to your mom or spouse every valentines day or Christmas?
1. People can still donate without wearing a poppy
2. If it's about the donation do you donate every time you are asked at the grocery store? Sport Check? To 50/50 at a flames game? When someone comes to your door?
If you do donate every time. Wow you are amazing. If not, how do you hate under privileged kids? Kids with cancer? Women with cancer? Girl scouts? God? Education? Firemen? Police? and on and on. You must be a disrespectful person.
Ok, in his defence, none of this is a relevant comparison. Publicly wearing of a poppy around Remembrance Day is a long accepted Canadian cultural tradition. You can't compare it against non-public displays or donations. It's not applicable.
Value has nothing to do with it. Do you make public displays to your mom or spouse every valentines day or Christmas?
1. People can still donate without wearing a poppy
2. If it's about the donation do you donate every time you are asked at the grocery store? Sport Check? To 50/50 at a flames game? When someone comes to your door?
If you do donate every time. Wow you are amazing. If not, how do you hate under privileged kids? Kids with cancer? Women with cancer? Girl scouts? God? Education? Firemen? Police? and on and on. You must be a disrespectful person.
That's a good point. I didn't wear one this year. To be honest, I just didn't run into anyone selling them for some reason. I probably don't go out enough. I did however buy a book from the Legion earlier this year about Canada's war history. I also donated to Guitars for Vets.
I am not sure if it was posted or not, but the Canadian Legion was not impressed with Cherry either.
I think you're missing the point? No one is mad that Cherry wants people to wear poppies. Had he gone on a rant simply on the lack of poppy wearing, or had he been even more thoughtful and explained the significance of the poppies, there would have been zero backlash. Instead he took racially charged language to single out 'immigrants' for being disrespectful. Everyone knows that "you people" can have extremely negative connotations under the right circumstances, and this was one of those times.
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I think you're missing the point? No one is mad that Cherry wants people to wear poppies. Had he gone on a rant simply on the lack of poppy wearing, or had he been even more thoughtful and explained the significance of the poppies, there would have been zero backlash.
Had he even just left out "come over here", most folks would be agreeing with him.
I am listening to Scott Rintoul right now, and they just played a clip from an interview with Don Cherry that was on Toronto radio KISS 92.5 this AM. It continues to be frustrating that certain media outlets refuse to accurately report—and draw attention to—what was most problematic in Cherry's rant...
Here is a link to Maury Sherman's interview with Don Cherry:
The quality is crap, but Cherry insists that what he said and meant was that "everybody ... should honour our fallen dead," and that "somehow or another it has been misinterpreted."
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Ok, in his defence, none of this is a relevant comparison. Publicly wearing of a poppy around Remembrance Day is a long accepted Canadian cultural tradition. You can't compare it against non-public displays or donations. It's not applicable.
Why is it not? He said that if you do not wear a poppy then "its also fair to say you dont value what others have done to bring Canada to where it is today and I call that disrespectful."
Wearing yellow/purple ribbons are an accepted tradition in support of cancer. People go around with bumper stickers to support firemen and police. Public displays of affection are a long accepted tradition during valentines day (another long accepted tradition) in school and the work place. Wearing jerseys to sporting events are a long accepted tradition does it make a difference for how much you support your team? Are you disrespectful to Christmas if you do not put up a tree or lights (long accepted traditions)?
My point is that you can value something without necessarily conforming to the accepted norms of how you display your support. He goes even further to call a person disrespectful without knowing why or how they support a cause.
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The quality is crap, but Cherry insists that what he said and meant was that "everybody ... should honour our fallen dead," and that "somehow or another it has been misinterpreted."
I gave it a listen. At first he said he wasn't referring to immigrants, but to "everybody that comes to this country" and listed off a bunch of nationalities. Kind of seems like immigrants to me, unless he means tourists.
Then later he was said that he was referring to everybody.
I gave it a listen. At first he said he wasn't referring to immigrants, but to "everybody that comes to this country" and listed off a bunch of nationalities. Kind of seems like immigrants to me, unless he means tourists.
Or he feels that people from England or Scotland or Ireland or wherever aren't really immigrants like 'those people' are.
The usage of the words "racist," and "racism" is extended beyond mere ethnicity to include prejudice on the basis of regional distinctions as well.
So, yes. What Don Cherry said is most definitely racist.
Also, how would Don Cherry even know who is an immigrant by just looking at them.. other than what he presumes to be immigrants by looking at the colour of their skin .. which to me is racist.
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but then its also fair to say you dont value what others have done to bring Canada to where it is today and I call that disrespectful
What if my poppy fell out, as they tend to do, and I didn't realize it? Then not understanding why everyone was giving me dirty looks. Maybe all Canadians should be required to take a course to properly secure a poppy to their jacket. Maybe it warmed up one day and when I changed to my light winter jacket I failed to transfer my poppy from my heavy winter jacket. Does that make me a bad Canadian?
I know who Don was talking about when he said "You people that come here", he saw a bunch of people with furry hats walking around with no poppies and assumed they were Russian. What other visible identifier could he possibly have been talking about?
At the end of the day, I’m not gonna poke a hole in my $1000 Arcteryx coat and ruin the expensive waterproof outer shell. Fewer and fewer people wear wool coats now that don’t mind poking holes in the material. If the legion wants me to wear a poppy, make a clip on one or even a sticker from now on.
Lots of cherry bashing here. But I just remember all those segments of coaches corner where don touched the Canadian soul. For example the show which tributes gord downie in the fall of 2017. He will be missed and its a shame he was cut bySN
What if my poppy fell out, as they tend to do, and I didn't realize it? Then not understanding why everyone was giving me dirty looks. Maybe all Canadians should be required to take a course to properly secure a poppy to their jacket. Maybe it warmed up one day and when I changed to my light winter jacket I failed to transfer my poppy from my heavy winter jacket. Does that make me a bad Canadian?
I know who Don was talking about when he said "You people that come here", he saw a bunch of people with furry hats walking around with no poppies and assumed they were Russian. What other visible identifier could he possibly have been talking about?
Ear ring backs, little clear plastic ear ring backs. They slide on the end of the poppy stopping it from come out of your clothing.
Big bag of them at the dollar store is cheap cheap.
In fact, I'd like to see the Legion include this with them.
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Ear ring backs, little clear plastic ear ring backs. They slide on the end of the poppy stopping it from come out of your clothing.
Big bag of them at the dollar store is cheap cheap.
In fact, I'd like to see the Legion include this with them.
I actually bought a little poppy center at the ceremony I went to, it is the same as the little Canadian flag pins but this a black poppy center. Still doesn't help if I change my jacket in a hurry.
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Lots of cherry bashing here. But I just remember all those segments of coaches corner where don touched the Canadian soul. For example the show which tributes gord downie in the fall of 2017. He will be missed and its a shame he was cut bySN
I wonder what an inclusive Canadian such as Gord Downie would think of Don's comments.
I'd like to think he would come out against them.
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I wonder what an inclusive Canadian such as Gord Downie would think of Don's comments.
I'd like to think he would come out against them.
As others have noted don has a long history of troublesome statements. Didn’t stop gordie from hanging with don publicly in his final days. Some people know when not to overreact or can see thru the veil of righteousness asserted by the money machine known as SN
