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View Poll Results: Should Don Cherry have been fired?
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11-10-2019, 07:03 PM
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#161
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Because he is a Canadian icon, successful coach, ambassador for the national sport, unabashedly patriotic, while also being an outspoken advocate for veterans, first responders, the people who put their lives on the line every day for their fellow citizens?
His body of work spans decades, not just a few seconds yesterday evening.
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You’re absolutely right it’s much more than a few seconds. He’s been a racist and a bigot and has shared those views, without shame, for decades. I’m glad his body of work is finally catching up to him.
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11-10-2019, 07:03 PM
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#162
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
I have no problem calling Don Cherry a racist.
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Well, maybe you should look that word up, and show everyone where he said his race is superior to any others, in particular or in general.
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11-10-2019, 07:05 PM
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#163
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
You’re absolutely right it’s much more than a few seconds. He’s been a racist and a bigot and has shared those views, without shame, for decades. I’m glad his body of work is finally catching up to him.
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Maybe you too should look that word up.
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11-10-2019, 07:05 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Half the posters here who are outraged/offended by Cherry also say they stopped/don't watch him. Why even bother being offended/outraged? You've already voted with your feet and your remotes. If others agree, they'll do the same and the ratings will run their course. I've never been a fan of Cherry's, either. And don't watch or care about this nonsense.
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11-10-2019, 07:10 PM
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#165
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Because he is a Canadian icon, successful coach, ambassador for the national sport, unabashedly patriotic, while also being an outspoken advocate for veterans, first responders, the people who put their lives on the line every day for their fellow citizens?
His body of work spans decades, not just a few seconds yesterday evening.
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His body of work includes an established pattern of hateful and prejudice statements.
This is nothing new.
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11-10-2019, 07:10 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Because he is a Canadian icon, successful coach, ambassador for the national sport, unabashedly patriotic, while also being an outspoken advocate for veterans, first responders, the people who put their lives on the line every day for their fellow citizens?
His body of work spans decades, not just a few seconds yesterday evening.
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Ok but if we're judging his worth as a Canadian on his hockey prowess, how did he ever place above Gretzky? Just a weird ranking. And his advocacy has been very checkered and excessively, aggressively nationalist. He's a climate denier who expressed support for Donald Trump and has said these types of things for decades... remember when he called out French players for wearing visors? And said all these things on national TV while being paid handsomely to share his opinions?
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11-10-2019, 07:13 PM
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It’s funny that it’s being cited as racist as that has nothing to do with being an immigrant. Many immigrants are of the same “race” as Cherry himself.
Then on the flip side. I can almost garauntee you what he really meant was visible minorities many of whom are not even immigrants. Would Don have a point that there is a drop off in visible minorities wearing poppies? Yeah probably. I’d say there’s a real lack of poppies over all though and I don’t think coaches corner is the time or place for that discussion.
That being said I think the reaction is a bit over the top. Is it a bad take. Yeah. Do we all need to cover our ears and pretend we heard some unspeakable evil? Probably not either.
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11-10-2019, 07:14 PM
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#168
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
His body of work includes an established pattern of hateful and prejudice statements.
This is nothing new.
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Let’s go for the whole enchilada then
Please elaborate with specifics, and spare no details.
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11-10-2019, 07:18 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
It’s funny that it’s being cited as racist as that has nothing to do with being an immigrant. Many immigrants are of the same “race” as Cherry himself.
Then on the flip side. I can almost garauntee you what he really meant was visible minorities many of whom are not even immigrants. Would Don have a point that there is a drop off in visible minorities wearing poppies? Yeah probably. I’d say there’s a real lack of poppies over all though and I don’t think coaches corner is the time or place for that discussion.
That being said I think the reaction is a bit over the top. Is it a bad take. Yeah. Do we all need to cover our ears and pretend we heard some unspeakable evil? Probably not either.
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What I agree with was that when Cherry said immigrant he meant visible minority. Which brings race into it.
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11-10-2019, 07:21 PM
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Well, maybe you should look that word up, and show everyone where he said his race is superior to any others, in particular or in general.
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Don Cherry believes white people are superior.
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11-10-2019, 07:28 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
What I agree with was that when Cherry said immigrant he meant visible minority. Which brings race into it.
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Yeah. I mean if I were a guessing man that’s what I would assume. However going based off his words it’s an assumption we can’t really make. So is it a poor taste in his comments? Yup. Is it racial? Not at all based off his words and not assuming his intent.
Don has a point. And it can be made with more then just visible minorities. It could even be a good discussion to have at some point to better educate current Canadians and future Canadians on why we wear poppies and what it means to some people. I just don’t see who this hurts enough to have all the outrage.
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11-10-2019, 07:36 PM
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First Line Centre
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Let’s not pretend Cherry was including British/American/Australian immigrants in his rant. Those nations were involved the wars as much as Canada was after all. Cherry knew exactly which groups he meant when he said “you people” and it’s pretty much as racist as you can get
I also don’t know where Cherry is basing his beliefs that immigrants weren’t contributing to veteran charities. He just wanted to sound off on visible minorities
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11-10-2019, 07:42 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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I would like to know how he is assuming who is likely an immigrant if not by appearance.
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11-10-2019, 07:47 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Some mental gymnastics here for people to claim he was talking about immigration and not race. The last time there was a wave of white European immigrants was what during world war 1 and 2? The fact of the matter is immigration since 1970 has been overwhelmingly visible minorities.
Do you think he's referring to white immigrants when he says you people? It's funny that people who are hiding behind immigration and not race argument seems to think racism is can only be in the form of "I hate x people". As if people need to explicitly say they don't like a certain people to be racist.
I like Cherry for the most part. I don't know if he is racist. However, what he said was definitely racist.
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11-10-2019, 08:01 PM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Immigrants buy poppies. They use it to represent their own wars too.
So Cherry isn't racist, hes just wrong.
And if veterans want people to buy poppies then MAKE BETTER POPPIES!
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11-10-2019, 08:25 PM
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#178
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Don Cherry has honoured many soldiers, police, firemen who have died in the line of duty over the years and were not the same race as him.
He also was reportedly okay with these guys, who also love hockey
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So he has a couple Sikh friends.....
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11-10-2019, 08:32 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I would like to know how he is assuming who is likely an immigrant if not by appearance.
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He specifically said "people living in smaller cities".
He's not assuming everyone who is Asian is an immigrant.
He's assuming everyone who lives in Markham or Surrey is an immigrant.
Which is fair.
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11-10-2019, 08:36 PM
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#180
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
He also was reportedly okay with these guys, who also love hockey
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"I'm not racist, I have a black friend!"
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