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Old 10-30-2019, 03:38 PM   #421
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i just put my destination into google maps on my phone and put it in my drink holder
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Bunch of spendthrifts, I hang up a paper of Calgary circa 1995 on my windshield... Also hides the cracks!
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I recently had the old radio/CD combo on my car replaced with a touchscreen faceplate with Android Auto and google maps/assistant. I also had the speakers replaced. It cost me about $800-900 with installation.

The difference to me is staggering. The sound upgrade is huge. Being able to connect to Google Maps and Music hands free is amazing. It's had a dramatic impact on my driving experience.

When I drive cars with rear-view cameras, I also notice the impact of that.

If you ever used a laggy and outdated navigation system, it's a nightmare.

I get what you are saying about some of the tech just being for show. But some of the basic tech changes over the last 10 years are really staggering and add a lot to the driving experience.

Edit: on top of the obvious, there are also all sorts of technologies that have gone into the actual driving, like lane assist, fancy new clutches, etc...In the 90s, you could get a 400-500 HP Lamborghini that was considered a "super car" and was very difficult to drive without being serious experience. Now any idiot can pick up an M Series BMW with similar power/acceleration and drive it straight off the lot.
Both of our cars were purchased used and basically have nil in terms of navigation/technology (they're both pre-2010). Lucked into a free rental car upgrade this summer to a M Series BMW Convertible (!) while on vacation, and it was quite the experience for an idiot like me

Can't say I miss it though -- I'm fine with my daily driver and will be happy driving it until it dies
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Old 10-30-2019, 04:00 PM   #424
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Which is one of the reasons that living in highly dense urban areas is more expensive and takes up a larger portion of your income. Because it can.

It's almost like life is choices. And we live with the choices that we make.
What?
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Old 10-30-2019, 04:20 PM   #425
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What?
I think he is saying that due to market forces, as discretionary income is not used for car purchases/payments by those that live in dense urban areas, more dollars are shifted to other areas such as housing, thus causing an increasing in the price of housing in those areas.
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Old 10-30-2019, 04:26 PM   #426
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I think he is saying that due to market forces, as discretionary income is not used for car purchases/payments by those that live in dense urban areas, more dollars are shifted to other areas such as housing, thus causing an increasing in the price of housing in those areas.
No, it is because downtown areas have enormously revitalized and greater numbers of young people want to live there.
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That's the biggest benefit, in my opinion, of living in a dense urban environment. Everything is close to my condo, I walk, bus, or bike, and only use a carshare when I am absolutely lazy. I never have to worry about parking or traffic and I spend a cumulative $80/month on all of the above transportation options.
Yeah, my commute is a 10 minute walk, 10 minutes to the grocery store, 15 mins to the gym, and most of my social activities are within a 30 minute walk or 10 minute bus ride. Very easy to get by without a car. I also don't have kids, which is a huge bonus.
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And that's all well and good if that's what you're into, but for many people like myself, urban living sounds awful
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Where did you get that done.

My rear-view camera #### the bed and I am thinking of getting it replaced.
I don't actually have a rear-view. I was talking about when I drive cars that do, and it being quite nice.

You can get them installed on cars though. The cameras themselves are relatively cheap, but the electronics guys will charge an arm and a leg to install.
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Yeah, my commute is a 10 minute walk, 10 minutes to the grocery store, 15 mins to the gym, and most of my social activities are within a 30 minute walk or 10 minute bus ride. Very easy to get by without a car. I also don't have kids, which is a huge bonus.
I don't want to say "nightmare", because it seems you can't use that word, but getting around with kids without a car (i.e. relying on transit) would be a bad dream...

Enjoy the freedom
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I don't know about hell, because there are some things I would like. But I also have a ~2 min walk to the gym, about a minute to one of the best parks in the city (IMO), and shopping within 10-20minutes as well. But I also have a yard and such, which I like.

I love my neighbours, but I also like them detached from me...so that would make downtown living a tough adjustment for me I think.
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I don't want to say "nightmare", because it seems you can't use that word, but getting around with kids without a car (i.e. relying on transit) would be a bad dream...

Enjoy the freedom
It happens all the time in Vancouver. Some of our friends do it, and while you obviously need a car for some things, it isn't a nightmare as far as they have told us.

You make it work and enjoy the lifestyle or you disappear into the burbs.
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It happens all the time in Vancouver. Some of our friends do it, and while you obviously need a car for some things, it isn't a nightmare as far as they have told us.

You make it work and enjoy the lifestyle or you disappear into the burbs.
Burbs please
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I don't want to say "nightmare", because it seems you can't use that word, but getting around with kids without a car (i.e. relying on transit) would be a bad dream...

Enjoy the freedom
We're likely to see a big divide between people who do and don't have kids, in terms of priorities.

It'd be interesting to see who has more debt. While single people are spending more on restaurants, alcohol, clothes, personal electronics, etc...it seems to pale in comparison to the cost of things like housing, decent schooling, etc...

It reminds me of that article that blamed young people purchasing avocado toast for them not being able to afford home purchases or getting out of student debt. Like saving $10/week was going to let them buy a $600k+ home, or that baby boomers aren't the biggest consumers of all time.
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There's also the added benefit of rarely having to take a cab, which means an extra $20-$30 for drinks everytime I go out!
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Pubs are all over the city, I have like five I can stumble from. The "inner city" hardly has an exclusive hold on that.
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1 in 3 people are counting on getting a big inheritance: study

https://nypost.com/2018/06/09/1-in-3...ritance-study/

The inheritance wars
A generation living beyond its means is waiting for the biggest transfer of wealth in human history. Some are waiting more patiently than others.

https://www.macleans.ca/society/life...eritance-wars/

Millennials to receive 'inheritance boom' - but it won't be enough to overcome housing crisis

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8134576.html
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1 in 3 people are counting on getting a big inheritance: study

https://nypost.com/2018/06/09/1-in-3...ritance-study/

The inheritance wars
A generation living beyond its means is waiting for the biggest transfer of wealth in human history. Some are waiting more patiently than others.

https://www.macleans.ca/society/life...eritance-wars/

Millennials to receive 'inheritance boom' - but it won't be enough to overcome housing crisis

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8134576.html
A major issue with this is that not all Millenials will receive these big inheritances. The same issue is occurring with access to education, parents providing children with help purchasing property, etc....

Social mobility is dying and the government's current monetary policy is enforcing this.
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A major issue with this is that not all Millenials will receive these big inheritances. The same issue is occurring with access to education, parents providing children with help purchasing property, etc....

Social mobility is dying and the government's current monetary policy is enforcing this.
Yep, I'm definitely one of those millenials who is going to get jack ####. My dad is winding down the last few years of his life with zero savings and an inability to control his spending. Would not be surprised if I end up having to fund some of his remaining years when his CPP and OAS don't go far enough.

On my mom's side, there's a house that will be split between myself, my sister, and two stepsisters.
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You don't deserve jack ####.

I expect nothing from my parents. I will probably get nothing. Neither from the in-laws.
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