GT: Canadian Federal Election 2019

[GGG]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

He will go under the bus soon, they lost 1/3 of their seats. Hard to spin this as a win I would think.

He holds the balance of power in parliament so I think he gets one more run.

[standinmotion]

Alberta should tie Equalization transfer with new pipeline. Let's see who will change their tune.

[redforever]

The problem with constituencies in Canada is due to how electoral districts or constituencies are determined in the first place.

Take for instance PEI.

To determine electoral districts, the population of Canada is divided by 279, the number of seats in Parliament in 1985 when the formula was developed.

So Canada has about 35 million people. Dividing by 279, that comes out to about 125,000 people per electoral district.

That number is then used to determine electoral districts in each province. PEI has about 150,000 people so they should get 2 electoral districts...but they have 4.

Why you might ask? Because our constitution mandates that no province can have fewer electoral districts than senate seats. PEI was granted 4 senate seats so even though their population does not justify 4 electoral districts, they still get them because of how the senate is set up.

[rubecube]

These speeches are too damn long. You lost, get off the stage!

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Zarley

I wonder if the Bloc will work with the Liberals to shutdown further investigation of SNC, or would they prefer to see further turmoil within the Liberal ranks? Does anyone know how seats on standing committees are apportioned?

They already know Trudeau is their bitch, see bill 21. They will stifle it on their terms.

[dino7c]

Why are the NDP so happy about losing? They look like the Oilers at the draft lottery

[burn_this_city]

Alberta can't stop equalization without forming a tax collection agency internally and transfering funds to the feds.

[CaptainCrunch]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1186505624307281920

[flamesfever]

I'm not surprised at the Liberal victory. IMO the Conservatives left a number of important areas open for the Liberals to capitalize on.

1. Anyone could have seen that, with Butts as the Liberal strategist, they were going to make the Environment and Climate change their number one campaign focus. Yet the Conservatives seemed to completely ignore this with a weak policy in response. They even left the planting of trees open to the Liberals.

2. They spent far too much time trying to revive the SNC scandal.

3. They failed to control the "Ford factor" with his cuts to education and other things.

4. They should have known that health care was a concern in Ontario and the Maritimes and left that open to the Liberals.

5. They offered next to nothing to Seniors.

6.They should have shown support for the LGBT community by having a few high ranking Conservatives march in the Gay Parade.

7.It appears to me that the people running the campaign, and Scheer himself at times, seemed to lack experience.

I can just see JT's father, Pierre, up there saying, "The world in unfolding as it should".

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Alberta can't stop equalization without forming a tax collection agency internally and transfering funds to the feds.

#Firewall

[81MC]

Originally Posted by rubecube

These speeches are too damn long. You lost, get off the stage!

Sentence...cheeeeeerrrrrrrrr. Sentence....cheeeeeerrrrr. Sentence....cheeeeerrrr.

#### it's a speech, not a twitter feed. Shut up crowd.

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by Jbo

Generally curious about the next couple years in this province. Talking heads acknowledge the divide and regional divisions, but no real ideas on how to repair national unity.

Does Jason K follow through on a referendum on equalization? Does it get moved up from 2021?

If I was Kenney I keep hitting all the points about how the federal government needs to enforce federal jurisdiction on pipelines and stay out of provincial jurisdiction on resource projects, along with all the other points in how we r good citizens of the federation. It really all comes down to TMX. Albertans are angry and frustrated but meaningful construction work starting on the pipeline and surviving court challenges will go a long way to giving everyone some release. It’s also the best chance for us to get oil to the ocean ASAP along with all the benefits Canada gets. It’s the line in the sand. If it gets stalled for any reason, including court quashing, it’s time to initiate referendums on equalization and other measures. I tell Trudeau to pass TMX as being in the national advantage and to fight like hell on these next court cases because if it goes down it’ll be his fault for not showing up to court in the prelim hearing and not taking steps to insulate his investment from vexatious lawsuits. If he wants to risk it that’s his call but Albertans will justifiably blame him if this pipe is sidetracked. No more delays. If TMX gets cancelled...makes you wonder why we pay so much in to Canada for no benefits.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I'm not surprised at the Liberal victory. IMO the Conservatives left a number of important areas open for the Liberals to capitalize on.



1. Anyone could have seen that, with Butts as the Liberal strategist, they were going to make the Environment and Climate change their number one campaign focus. Yet the Conservatives seemed to completely ignore this with a weak policy in response. They even left the planting of trees open to the Liberals.



2. They spent far too much time trying to revive the SNC scandal.



3. They failed to control the "Ford factor" with his cuts to education and other things.



4. They should have known that health care was a concern in Ontario and the Maritimes and left that open to the Liberals.



5. They offered next to nothing to Seniors.



6.They should have shown support for the LGBT community by having a few high ranking Conservatives march in the Gay Parade.



7.It appears to me that the people running the campaign, and Scheer himself at times, seemed to lack experience.



I can just see JT's father, Pierre, up there saying, "The world in unfolding as it should".

I said it in the other thread, but there was absolutely nothing in the Conservative platform for young voters.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by indes

Lots of jokes! But seriously if we could get a party out here that was pro pipeline and socially progressive I don't see how it doesn't take SK, AB and BC

that wasn't a joke

[Jbo]

Tax the rich chants at NDP speech.

/facepalm

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by redforever

The problem with constituencies in Canada is due to how electoral districts or constituencies are determined in the first place.

Take for instance PEI.

To determine electoral districts, the population of Canada is divided by 279, the number of seats in Parliament in 1985 when the formula was developed.

So Canada has about 35 million people. Dividing by 279, that comes out to about 125,000 people per electoral district.

That number is then used to determine electoral districts in each province. PEI has about 150,000 people so they should get 2 electoral districts...but they have 4.

Why you might ask? Because our constitution mandates that no province can have fewer electoral districts than senate seats. PEI was granted 4 senate seats so even though their population does not justify 4 electoral districts, they still get them because of how the senate is set up.

So we need to fix the Senate. Start all over, no partisan appointments, elected senators. And 150 k people shouldnt have 4 MPs and 4 Senators.

[GGG]

Does TMX get mentioned in Trudeaus speech.

[Chingas]

May as well promise everyone a rolls Royce seeing as you can't pass any of these ideas y yourself.

[rubecube]

"It's always nice to be back in Saskatchewan."

Knew he was a liar.

[81MC]

Are they really doing three speeches at once? WtF