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				Valentin Zykov suspended 20 games for PEDs
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			What is up with Vegas? 2nd player in as many years caught with PEDs 
 
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Valentin Zykov of the Vegas Golden Knights has been suspended 20 games without pay for violating the NHL/NHLPA Performance Enhancing Substances Program.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 12:37 PM
			
			
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				What is up with Vegas? 2nd player in as many years caught with PEDs 
 
Chris Johnston  @reporterchris 
Valentin Zykov of the Vegas Golden Knights has been suspended 20 games without pay for violating the NHL/NHLPA Performance Enhancing Substances Program. 
			
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Two players in two seasons have been levelled with this charge in that organisation. One might wonder about VGK's culpability in all of this.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 12:38 PM
			
			
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			10-17-2019, 12:39 PM
			
			
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			What was he taking?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 12:39 PM
			
			
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			considering it's Las Vegas, I'd say performance-enhancing substances aren't the worst thing they could have in their systems.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-17-2019, 12:41 PM
			
			
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			Yikes team says he used it with full knowledge. 
 
Chris Johnston 
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Key sentence from a #VGK release on the Zykov suspension: "Valentin knowingly used a banned substance without the consent, recommendation or knowledge of our team. We support the NHL/NHLPA Performance Enhancing Substances Program and respect the decision here."
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 12:44 PM
			
			
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				considering it's Las Vegas, I'd say performance-enhancing substances aren't the worst thing they could have in their systems. 
			
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Considering it’s the NHL, you can be sure every team has players with “Vegas goodies” in their system, no matter where they play
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			10-17-2019, 12:46 PM
			
			
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				What was he taking? 
			
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under the CBA the NHL has to keep it confidential.  Unless the player says what it was, we will never know.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 12:47 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  sureLoss
					 
				 
				Yikes team says he used it with full knowledge. 
 
Chris Johnston 
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Key sentence from a #VGK release on the Zykov suspension: "Valentin knowingly used a banned substance without the consent, recommendation or knowledge of our team. We support the NHL/NHLPA Performance Enhancing Substances Program and respect the decision here." 
			
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What is “it”?
 
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			10-17-2019, 12:52 PM
			
			
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			Holy crap. VGK has already used $1.3 m of their $4.75 m of LTIR.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 12:54 PM
			
			
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			Interesting that Zykov claims he doesn't know how he tested positive compared to the team statement that he knowingly used the PED. 
https://twitter.com/user/status/1184889554089717761
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 12:59 PM
			
			
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				Interesting that Zykov claims he doesn't know how he tested positive compared to the team statement that he knowingly used the PED... 
			
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Hmmmm. I am often the first to reject nonsensical conspiracy theories, but there is something about this that doesn't pass muster. This is the second time a VGK player has received a PED infraction. VGK is really tight to the cap. Could a PED suspension be a precursor toward contract termination? How does that work?
 
I could see how dumping a fairly ineffective player like Zykov would be beneficial for VGK.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			10-17-2019, 01:13 PM
			
			
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			I say all teams that played Vegas and lost should be compensated with points! Typical Vegas. 
 
Although I  do find it funny that during the pre-game skate the Vegas club has a bunch of show girls at the visitor end shaking things and banging on the glass to trying to get the attention of the visiting players.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 01:24 PM
			
			
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			Jesse Granger  @JesseGranger_ 
Despite Valentin Zykov’s statement saying he’s unaware of how he tested positive for a banned substance, George McPhee said Zykov told him in a conversation yesterday that he knowingly took the substance, and has taken that sort of substance for 4 years.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 01:49 PM
			
			
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			PED's should be legalized.  Most, if not all, professional athletes take them anyway.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-17-2019, 01:58 PM
			
			
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				PED's should be legalized.  Most, if not all, professional athletes take them anyway. 
			
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			10-17-2019, 01:59 PM
			
			
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				PED's should be legalized.  Most, if not all, professional athletes take them anyway. 
			
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I agree that many more take it than get caught, but no way should it be legalized. There should be way more in competition and off season testing to catch cheaters
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-17-2019, 02:12 PM
			
			
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				I agree that many more take it than get caught, but no way should it be legalized. There should be way more in competition and off season testing to catch cheaters 
			
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It's practically impossible, which leads to "who gets caught" situation, which is inherently unfair.  Medical advancements in PED's are incredibly fast.  What's good (untraceable/uncheckable) today, becomes no good (traceable/checkable) tomorrow.  Professional athletes choose to subject their bodies to a tremendous amount of physical and mental abuse; not just in NHL, in all pro-sports.  PED's are just one of the tools available to them.  Legalizing PED's would make them safer and more scrutinized, medically.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-17-2019, 02:15 PM
			
			
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			10-17-2019, 02:19 PM
			
			
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				PED's should be legalized.  Most, if not all, professional athletes take them anyway. 
			
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Not only that, but I want elective surgery for athletes to improve their performances.
 
I want swimmers with blow holes in their heads.  I want boxers with iron fists,  I want hockey players with sharpened elbows and horse legs.  I want receivers with hands like a lacrosse stick.
 
We need to move to the next stage of freakshow athletes.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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