10-12-2019, 11:04 PM
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#61
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by zamler
Why can't Peters pick his lines and stick with them for a few games. The team has no rhythm.
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because only 4 guys are playing well
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10-12-2019, 11:05 PM
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#62
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Karl
Janko needs some time off, maybe even sending him to the AHL wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. He's been a joke this year.
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he would be claimed
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10-12-2019, 11:05 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Bennett got a period and a half. Mangiapane had less than one period.
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Mangiapane is picking himself off the ice almost every shift after getting knocked over in the corner or along the boards. Thats why I think he got moved off, in addition to a poor penalty.
Brushing snow off your knees every shift, especially on the second line, is not going to work very well to generate the chances needed with a guy like Tkachuk on the other wing. They need 5 guys upright otherwise they don’t have much of a chance to do anything on that shift.
He either can’t play that exact style in the NHL, or, needs to get bigger and stronger.
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10-12-2019, 11:06 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
Why?
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Because Peters also wanted to try Tkachuk at first line RW, and then move Lindholm down. Because that didn't happen, Lindholm must remain a RW for the rest of his career and then sleep on the right side of the bed at home, and not visit England if he likes to drive.
It's maddening.
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10-12-2019, 11:06 PM
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#65
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by browna
All the missed trades shows to me is the guys that BT wanted off this roster, and that he’s now stuck with with since their value has only gone down since the season started.
Jankowski has a fluke year last year on the PK, but didn’t get any better overall, and BT was able to sell a team high on him. Now his value is circling the drain and it would take another player to get that same return.
Frolik may have same value and Brodie certainly has retained value regardless of Valamaki’s injury...but Brodie may still be on the block if they need an asset to trade to help up front now.
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If any of those guys are sulking that is an utter lack of professionalism. The business of hockey will always include names being bandied about and it’s not about not wanting guys per se but wanting different attributes that come at a cost.
Pros would understand that the only thing they control is their performance and that being in the NHL is something special not to be taken for granted.
Deal with what you have and just improve and help the team win.
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10-12-2019, 11:07 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Bennett got a period and a half. Mangiapane had less than one period.
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The NHL is not a developmental league. The AHL is...
When you get a chance to play your job is to be ready for each and every shift/ game. You build confidence and stability by doing things right...over and over again.
The coaches job during a game is to give minutes to the guys who are emotionally, mentally and physically prepared....each game AND to win.
It’s up to the players to deliver.
Not complicated.
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10-12-2019, 11:08 PM
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#67
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
Why?
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Simple. Because if you want to try moving a top W off of W to C while another top W is unavailable, then you have too few wings to accommodate your C’s.
Draw up lines with Lindholm on C and no Tkachuk.
So many concessions at wing to bump Backlund to 3C is absurd
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10-12-2019, 11:08 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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Knights 6 Flames 2
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Originally Posted by dino7c
he would be claimed
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By...?
Maybe if he was making half of what he is?
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10-12-2019, 11:08 PM
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#69
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Maybe if Bennett was the rw on BOTH the 1st and 2nd lines, he'd be able to get going.
Give him 30 minutes a night for an extended stretch of games and see what you've got.
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10-12-2019, 11:09 PM
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#70
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
The NHL is not a developmental league. The AHL is...
When you get a chance to play your job is to be ready for each and every shift/ game. You build confidence and stability by doing things right...over and over again.
The coaches job during a game is to give minutes to the guys who are emotionally, mentally and physically prepared....each game AND to win.
It’s up to the players to deliver.
Not complicated.
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The NHL is the top league but some players actually do develop in it
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10-12-2019, 11:10 PM
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#71
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Mangiapane is picking himself off the ice almost every shift after getting knocked over in the corner or along the boards. Thats why I think he got moved off, in addition to a poor penalty.
Brushing snow off your knees every shift, especially on the second line, is not going to work very well to generate the chances needed with a guy like Tkachuk on the other wing. They need 5 guys upright otherwise they don’t have much of a chance to do anything on that shift.
He either can’t play that exact style in the NHL, or, needs to get bigger and stronger.
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His poor penalty was everything imo.
It was an absolutely terrible penalty that set the tone for the game.
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10-12-2019, 11:10 PM
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#72
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: 403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
By...?
Maybe if he was making half of what he is?
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Tampa because Feaster
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10-12-2019, 11:11 PM
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#73
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Mangiapane is picking himself off the ice almost every shift after getting knocked over in the corner or along the boards. Thats why I think he got moved off, in addition to a poor penalty.
Brushing snow off your knees every shift, especially on the second line, is not going to work very well to generate the chances needed with a guy like Tkachuk on the other wing. They need 5 guys upright otherwise they don’t have much of a chance to do anything on that shift.
He either can’t play that exact style in the NHL, or, needs to get bigger and stronger.
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Maybe should watch to see what he can leverage from how Johnny doesn’t get pounded
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10-12-2019, 11:11 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Mangiapane is picking himself off the ice almost every shift after getting knocked over in the corner or along the boards. Thats why I think he got moved off, in addition to a poor penalty.
Brushing snow off your knees every shift, especially on the second line, is not going to work very well to generate the chances needed with a guy like Tkachuk on the other wing. They need 5 guys upright otherwise they don’t have much of a chance to do anything on that shift.
He either can’t play that exact style in the NHL, or, needs to get bigger and stronger.
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Mangiapane can add some skill to a bottom 6,and though he lacks the size, he has the tenacity to play that role.
I don't know if he's skilled enough to be a top 6 guy.
If it were up to me, I think the flames have to split up the big boys, at least for a while to get everybody else going.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
Tkachuk - Backlund - lindholm
Lucic - Jankowski - mangiapane
Reider - Ryan - Frolik
In order for this iteration of the flames to succeed, they need Bennett, Jankowski, mangiapane, to get going and feeling good about themselves.
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10-12-2019, 11:12 PM
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#75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
His poor penalty was everything imo.
It was an absolutely terrible penalty that set the tone for the game.
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That penalty was too bad, too soon
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10-12-2019, 11:12 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
The NHL is the top league but some players actually do develop in it
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That wasn’t my main point.
You earn your ice time in the NHL, every shift, early and often in your career, by doing things right.
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10-12-2019, 11:14 PM
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#77
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#1 Goaltender
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The coaches need to adapt to what other teams are trying to do against CGY. NHL teams are great at defensive positioning but the coaches have to prepare a counter.
It’s early and CGY has great skill. But some guys have to get to their games and execute.
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10-12-2019, 11:14 PM
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#78
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
That wasn’t my main point.
You earn your ice time in the NHL, every shift, early and often in your career, by doing things right.
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Got it, yes, agreed
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10-12-2019, 11:15 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Maybe should watch to see what he can leverage from how Johnny doesn’t get pounded
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He's not dynamic enough to shape his game to Gaudreau's.
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10-12-2019, 11:15 PM
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#80
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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The problem right now is clear to me: We just are not getting enough offensive production from our bottom 6 or basically anyone not named Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Monahan and Lindholm.
It's great that our top guys are producing fairly well but we have a grand total of 2 assists combined from Bennett, Frolik, Ryan, Mangiapane, Lucic, Rieder and Jankowski. The offensive forward depth on this team worries me tremendously.
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