10-05-2019, 11:42 AM
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#81
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Closet Jedi
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Advanced stats are best way to analyze players. People who poo-poo its usefulness go on my ignore list.
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10-05-2019, 11:43 AM
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#82
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
I hated Iginla the last 3 years on our team and think he dragged the Flames down with his attitude and his play.
Theo is a top 3 all time Flame.
Over the long run, Darryl Sutter's contribution to the Flames organization was a net negative.
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Iggy should've been traded a lot sooner.
Sutter caused a lot of long term damage in his last two years as GM. 2018 was the first year that enough of the mistakes have been fixed.
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10-05-2019, 11:44 AM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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- Sam Bennett should be playing as an everyday centre with Tkachuk on his wing.
- Milan Lucic is a good hockey player.
- We should have traded Juuso Valimaki for Mark Stone
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10-05-2019, 11:47 AM
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#84
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First Line Centre
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The rebuild was over too fast and we didn't suck enough. Really could have used McKinnon and/or Ekblad. We also didn't make use of excessive cap space during the rebuild to pick up extra draft picks. Ownership is rather impatient about winning.
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10-05-2019, 11:55 AM
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#85
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Unpopular Opinions about Flames
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Originally Posted by TheSquatch
... guy could go out on a limb here and say that the progress we are seeing in Rittich, how ready he looks, how calm he is, we have a legit #1 goalie in him...
You could say that Treliving has been mediocre through no fault of his own...
You could say that Lucic for Neal is a huge win, outright for the Flames...
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Are any of these actually “unpopular” opinions here? I doubt it. These are all ideas that have been forwarded pretty frequently on this site.
I would think that by definition “unpopular” opinions on a fan site are those which take a dissenting view of the team.
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10-05-2019, 12:14 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
My unpopular opinion is fairly well known: that the Flames will have a hard time winning with Johnny Gaudreau as their top forward, and next summer they should seriously consider trading him to maximize his value.
Other unpopular opinions I've had:
- Fighting should eliminated completely from the game
- The definition of a hit needs to be re-shaped, to only be about separately puck from player and nothing more
- Theo Fleury is not an all time great Flame, and does not deserve to have his number retired or be honored by the club.
- The organization has been to quick to fire General Managers with Al Coates in particular getting a raw deal. With more time, Button would have also been a good GM. I'm very relieved by the commitment being shown to GMBT
- Iginla is the best Flames of all time but did the club a real dis-service by how he handled his NTC during his final season. He was also a major issue in his final few seasons by undermining the coach and not playing a strong two way game, creating a divide in the locker room, with Regehr on the other side.
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I can only disagree with Button.
I'm on the fence with Fleury. I can be swayed to the pro-Fleury and anti-Fleury camps quite easily.
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10-05-2019, 12:19 PM
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#87
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
Brad Treliving needs to be replaced. I don't think he has what is required to build a Cup contending team. He is too slow when it comes to making moves/trades and he hasn't yet rectified the ongoing goalie issues in Calgary. If the Flames are in a playoff position this season and he doesn't do anything significant to bolster the lineup at the trade deadline it should be his final year if the Flames don't make a run. I understand he just renewed his contract but who cares. I don't want mediocrity if that is all that Treliving can deliver.
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Wow. Agreed with most of the unpopular opinions until I came to this one. That’s a doozy. Real headscratcher.
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10-05-2019, 12:21 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Truculence is overrated.
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10-05-2019, 12:22 PM
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#89
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Valimaki is extremely overrated.
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Couldn’t disagree more. Valimaki is a stud. The best of our young defenseman AINEC
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10-05-2019, 12:24 PM
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#90
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup
Advanced stats are best way to analyze players. People who poo-poo its usefulness go on my ignore list.
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Best way? That’s just unquestionably wrong. Advanced stats can never be better than isolating and watching a player exclusively imo. Block me!
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10-05-2019, 12:25 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Truculence is overrated.
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said no player ever
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10-05-2019, 12:28 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
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^Unpopular opinion:
Players are among the worst groups to listen to when it comes to understanding what is good or not good for the game.
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10-05-2019, 12:30 PM
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#93
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First Line Centre
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We should have never traded Phaneuf simply for more sightings of Elisha Cuthbert.
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10-05-2019, 12:31 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
^Unpopular opinion:
Players are among the worst groups to listen to when it comes to understanding what is good or not good for the game.
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When it comes to things like equipment and their own safety, sure. But otherwise, no.
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10-05-2019, 12:40 PM
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#95
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:  
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This thread makes me want to argue.
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Originally Posted by rp889
I've been to Detroit. It's like God sh*t on a parking lot.
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10-05-2019, 12:44 PM
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#96
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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The Flames are a much better team then they showed in last season's playoffs. They got rattled and maybe that's on leadership/ coaching/ youth idk.
Smith wasn't all that good. We didn't get spanked that badly. Lost two in OT.
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10-05-2019, 12:48 PM
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#97
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: at home
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Flames' centre group sucks. It's very slow, soft and inconsistent, with no elite talent. We're not going to win it all with Monahan and Backlund as #1C and #2C.
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10-05-2019, 12:50 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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My unpopular opinions:
- Darryl Sutter was a bad GM. He was however, one of the best coaches out there.
- Tkachuk should be the eventual captain, not Monahan
- The notion that Jarome's two way game was at some detrimental level to the team is exaggerated and untrue. Iginla was a offensive winger, no different from a Gaudreau, and creating offense on a team that lacked that element should have been and was his priority. The commentary around him often sounds like Iginla blew the zone regularly while shirking his play in his own end, which wasn't true. The resulting "divide" in the room, I feel, is also dramatized for effect and if there even was one, wasn't too different from most teams where there's a group who are very defensively focused and another group who are looked at to score goals.
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10-05-2019, 01:03 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Gaudreau is already better defensively than Iginla ever was.
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10-05-2019, 01:10 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam
Gaudreau is already better defensively than Iginla ever was.
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Faster and better stick on his sneaky backchecks and stick lifts. Iginla was better along the boards, separating opposition from the puck with his physicality and providing a short pass out to his linemate for the breakout. Neither guy is (or was) as bad as some make them out to be though in my opinion. Could be better, just like Backlund could be better at scoring when given prime looks. Different players.
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