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Old 10-01-2019, 09:37 PM   #41
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:51 PM   #42
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Hockey. The sport where you are allowed to somehow explain away your abuse of an official.
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Bah! Just another reason to like Engelland.
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Hilarious quotes by Ryan Reeves lol.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:04 AM   #45
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What he was doing was officiating a game that already had two line brawls, and was in between a hot head in Kane and a guy willing to mix things up in Engelland. Given Kane had already turned back to jaw a couple times, the linesman quite reasonably thought that the third turn would be re-engage again, so he physically restrained Kane. That they tripped is just an inadvertent aspect of this.

Honestly, I'm surprised the league gave him 3. I suspect part of that might be specifically to keep him out of the first two games - both against Vegas - to help keep things calmer.
Agree about the part about keeping him out for the first two games against Vegas- I still don't like the decision though.

If the refs/linesmans didn't want any further shenanigans this game then blow the play dead and give them each a 10 minute misconduct. Ignoring the ongoing play and skating around chasing two guys trying to restrain them like that just looks silly and ended in a silly result.
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AHAHAHAHAH "He's weak. Get's taken down by a ref. Time to hit the gym no?"

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Old 10-02-2019, 11:10 AM   #47
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Agree about the part about keeping him out for the first two games against Vegas- I still don't like the decision though.

If the refs/linesmans didn't want any further shenanigans this game then blow the play dead and give them each a 10 minute misconduct. Ignoring the ongoing play and skating around chasing two guys trying to restrain them like that just looks silly and ended in a silly result.
They did, actually. Pretty sure the whistle goes at the same time Kane makes his final (apparent) turn toward Engelland. And both were given 10s.
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They did, actually. Pretty sure the whistle goes at the same time Kane makes his final (apparent) turn toward Engelland. And both were given 10s.
Yeah, it's too late by then though. By the time the whistle goes the linesman has already been skating around trying to hold on to two player while falling down in the process for 10 seconds. If anything it looks like Kane is done with the altercation before Engelland goes back after him again.
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Brian Burke, on Sportsnet new segment "Hey Burkie", says that Evander Kane should have gotten 0 games.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/

I totally agree with him.
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His justification was basically "fighting is a thing so let him go fight." Even as a pro-fighting person, that argument is just absurd. Burke even opened his answer by saying it is wrong to put your hands on an official, then proceeded to completely ignore the fact that Kane put his hands on an official.
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His justification was basically "fighting is a thing so let him go fight." Even as a pro-fighting person, that argument is just absurd. Burke even opened his answer by saying it is wrong to put your hands on an official, then proceeded to completely ignore the fact that Kane put his hands on an official.
Gotta get people talking about your inaugural segment.
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Kane is a goof, no question, and deserves every suspension he gets. That was a pretty mild push though. The ref looked like an even bigger goof imo. WTF is he doing steer wrestling a player to the ice for no good reason. Kind of a dangerous and needless move. Suspend the ref too. Or linesman...whatever he is.
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His justification was basically "fighting is a thing so let him go fight." Even as a pro-fighting person, that argument is just absurd. Burke even opened his answer by saying it is wrong to put your hands on an official, then proceeded to completely ignore the fact that Kane put his hands on an official.
I know people really seem to like Burke, but I think he's a total dinosaur. Even his reasoned takes seem to omit vital facts.
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Man, that linesman is a #####. If Kane wants to get fed by Engelland, let him. I don't even care about fighting in hockey but linesmen trying too hard is annoying. Same thing when Iginla and Giordano were going to exchange hostilities and they stepped in for no reason.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:41 PM   #56
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Kane is a goof, no question, and deserves every suspension he gets. That was a pretty mild push though. The ref looked like an even bigger goof imo. WTF is he doing steer wrestling a player to the ice for no good reason. Kind of a dangerous and needless move. Suspend the ref too. Or linesman...whatever he is.
I wouldn't call that steer wrestling, it just looked like they fell from being off balance, after grabbing Kane's jersey when Kane tried to cut around him to get to Engelland (which clearly is way over the top on Kane's part). And Kane gave Deryk a pretty good slash AFTER they got separated, so the official had every reason to assume Kane would have wanted to continue the altercations when he was skating back towards Engelland and trash talking.

Because it was the ref that initiated contact, and not Kane, I agree with the 10.4 ruling over the 10.3 interpretation as Kane was just angrily freeing himself from the official and not deliberately initiating contact with intent to injure.

Also, Kane is a nutjob and I'm very sorry the ref didn't just step aside and let Deryk beat the living daylights out of him.
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Man, that linesman is a #####. If Kane wants to get fed by Engelland, let him. I don't even care about fighting in hockey but linesmen trying too hard is annoying. Same thing when Iginla and Giordano were going to exchange hostilities and they stepped in for no reason.
Think context is key here.

It's a 5-1 pre-season game, there had already been two line brawls and some questionable plays in the game.

In a mean nothing game like that I have no issue with the ref trying to take back some of the control so things don't get out of hand.
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Burkie is wrong. There shouldn’t ever be a grey area when it comes to the safety of the refs. Kane, a known hot head took a swing at the ref. Regardless of what led up to it, it’s never ok. That’s a message that needs to be sent, otherwise it slowly starts to move the line of acceptable behaviour.
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Also, Kane is a nutjob and I'm very sorry the ref didn't just step aside and let Deryk beat the living daylights out of him.
Now that’s the truth. That’s how it should have gone down.
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