[Signing] Flames sign Zac Rinaldo (1 yr, 2-way, $700k AAV) UPD: waived

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by getbak

I assume that at the end of the season, they'll figure out how much he made in total combined between the NHL and AHL (assuming he gets some time in the NHL). If it's less than his guarantee, he'll get a cheque to top him up. If the total is at least the minimum, he'll get nothing extra.


I would guess it's mostly psychological by helping the player feel like he got a win in the negotiations.

Also, when the time comes to recall a player, the GM might look at the numbers and think, "we're already paying this guy as if he's going to play a couple of weeks in the NHL anyway, so we might as well recall him", rather than recalling a different AHLer who doesn't have the guaranteed money.


If my math is right, I believe Rinaldo could spend up to 18 days in the NHL over the course of the season without it costing the Flames any extra money because of the guaranteed minimum.

Not sure that your math is right.

With a 180 day season, I calculate it to be 26 days. If it's 182 days (I just took a quick look and that is what it seems, but I'm not sure), I still get 26 games.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Not sure that your math is right.

With a 180 day season, I calculate it to be 26 days. If it's 182 days (I just took a quick look and that is what it seems, but I'm not sure), I still get 26 games.

I get 17 days, not that it really matters.

Spoiler!

Salary = 700k
Minor Salary = 175k
Minimum salary = 225k
Difference = 225k-175k = 50k
A bonus for a day with the big club = (700k-175k)/180days = 2.917k/day
Therefore the amount of days is 50k/(2.917k/day)= 17.15 "free days"

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Not sure that your math is right.

With a 180 day season, I calculate it to be 26 days. If it's 182 days (I just took a quick look and that is what it seems, but I'm not sure), I get 27 games.

The season is 186 days long.


This is how I did the math:

• NHL Salary = N
• AHL Salary = A
• Minimum Guaranteed Salary = M
• Percentage of the Season spent in the NHL = P
• Percentage of the Season spent in the AHL = 1-P

A player's total compensation is the amount earned in the NHL plus the amount earned in the AHL.

NP + A(1-P) = Total Compensation

To find the maximum percentage of the season that can be spent in the NHL for "free", we substitute in M for the Total Compensation. We can simplify the equation like so...

NP + A(1-P) = M
NP + A - AP = M
NP - AP = M - A
P(N - A) = M - A
P = (M - A) / (N - A)

Substitute in Rinaldo's actual numbers and solve for P: M=$225,000, N=$700,000, and A=$175,000 ...

P = (225-175)/(700-175) = 50/525 = 0.0952 = 9.52%

That means he can spend 9.52% of the season in the NHL (17.71 days) and make the same as his minimum guaranteed salary.




To check our work, plug the numbers back in to the equation and solve for M:

700,000(0.0952) + 175,000(1-0.0952) = 66,666.67 + 158,333.33 = $225,000.

EDIT: gvitaly, different method, same result.

[Enoch Root]

I looked at my methodology over and over and couldn't see anything wrong with it.

Until I finally noticed that my target was $250k instead of $225K

So yeah, 17 days

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Mike F

I hated him his whole career.

Now I will love him.

I still don't like him.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Not sure why people call him a goon - he is not going to scare anyone.


What he will add when he is in the lineup is speed and hits, and he seems to be pretty good on the forecheck too. When facing a bigger and more physical team, I have zero issues with calling him up and getting his energy in the lineup. Flames seem to have issues with the bigger and more physical teams consistently, and I do think having a guy out there who is known for big hits will help them if the games become chippy, as it allows the Flames to play a bit differently and still be successful.


With that being said, I hope he doesn't do anything across the line when he puts on that Flaming C. I detest this type of player. Play physical and help this team win? I will love you. Cross that line and make an ugly hit to a vulnerable player? I will hate you and I will be embarrassed that you dress for the team I cheer for.


All in all, a good, practically zero-risk signing that can help fill in a hole. Stockton will probably still have to sign an outright enforcer, however, as they are still common, and Rinaldo is not that.

[1qqaaz]

So the Flames sign Zac Rinaldo, but then Ryan Lomberg gets 5 points in 1 night (so far) for the heat.

It's nice to know there are options.

[nwflamesfan]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

So the Flames sign Zac Rinaldo, but then Ryan Lomberg gets 5 points in 1 night (so far) for the heat.

It's nice to know there are options.

He just got a empty netter for 6

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Not sure why people call him a goon - he is not going to scare anyone.


What he will add when he is in the lineup is speed and hits, and he seems to be pretty good on the forecheck too. When facing a bigger and more physical team, I have zero issues with calling him up and getting his energy in the lineup. Flames seem to have issues with the bigger and more physical teams consistently, and I do think having a guy out there who is known for big hits will help them if the games become chippy, as it allows the Flames to play a bit differently and still be successful.


With that being said, I hope he doesn't do anything across the line when he puts on that Flaming C. I detest this type of player. Play physical and help this team win? I will love you. Cross that line and make an ugly hit to a vulnerable player? I will hate you and I will be embarrassed that you dress for the team I cheer for.


All in all, a good, practically zero-risk signing that can help fill in a hole. Stockton will probably still have to sign an outright enforcer, however, as they are still common, and Rinaldo is not that.

That’s the only reason most people know him

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by AC

Perfect. Free depth upgrade on Lomberg.

He's another nuclear option we can deploy if need be.

Really "nuclear" ??

Will putting him in the Flames lineup force any NHL team to dress an extra tough guy?

[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by getbak

The season is 186 days long.


This is how I did the math:

• NHL Salary = N
• AHL Salary = A
• Minimum Guaranteed Salary = M
• Percentage of the Season spent in the NHL = P
• Percentage of the Season spent in the AHL = 1-P

A player's total compensation is the amount earned in the NHL plus the amount earned in the AHL.

NP + A(1-P) = Total Compensation

To find the maximum percentage of the season that can be spent in the NHL for "free", we substitute in M for the Total Compensation. We can simplify the equation like so...

NP + A(1-P) = M
NP + A - AP = M
NP - AP = M - A
P(N - A) = M - A
P = (M - A) / (N - A)

Substitute in Rinaldo's actual numbers and solve for P: M=$225,000, N=$700,000, and A=$175,000 ...

P = (225-175)/(700-175) = 50/525 = 0.0952 = 9.52%

That means he can spend 9.52% of the season in the NHL (17.71 days) and make the same as his minimum guaranteed salary.




To check our work, plug the numbers back in to the equation and solve for M:

700,000(0.0952) + 175,000(1-0.0952) = 66,666.67 + 158,333.33 = $225,000.

EDIT: gvitaly, different method, same result.

And they said you'd never use Algebra after high school