[News] Gillies on waivers. Upd: clears and assigned to Stockton

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Zagidulin's entire NA hockey experience to this point consists of a game in a rookie tournament and a split-squad game. That's all. I have liked what I have seen from him so far, but to suggest that he is ready to steal a job in the AHL is really optimistic. Starting the year in the ECHL will certainly not hurt him, and I suspect that if he is as good as we imagine he is, then it would not be an extended stay.

Rittich started in the AHL.

Do Euro UFAs ever start in the ECHL?

[gamesaver]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Zagidulin's entire NA hockey experience to this point consists of a game in a rookie tournament and a split-squad game. That's all. I have liked what I have seen from him so far, but to suggest that he is ready to steal a job in the AHL is really optimistic. Starting the year in the ECHL will certainly not hurt him, and I suspect that if he is as good as we imagine he is, then it would not be an extended stay.

Fair enough, but who would you suggest to back up Parsons, Schnieder? Parsons has shown incredible skill set, but he is also very inconsistent. I follow our AHL team during the regular season and the most consistent goaltending I have seen in last 2 or 3 seasons was from Rittich, who had zero NA experience at that point. Not only that, he was coming from the Czech league which cannot be compared to the KHL in terms of quality. Zagidulin already has a record of success from one the best pro leagues, something guys like Parsons or Schneider doesn't have yet. He is a front-runner in my eyes, but we will see.

[Toonage]

I would imagine Zag will start in the AHL where the other Russian players are and can help him adjust (well, Valiev will help Zag & Yelesin). We aren't the Oilers.

[Geeoff]

I honestly hope we swap him for someone else's waiver garbage because I feel we have more use for depth at F or D, since we have 5 other goalies

[Stupid]

Sorry bud..

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

Fair enough, but who would you suggest to back up Parsons, Schnieder?...

In the context of this discussion—which is about what to do with Jon Gillies—then in the event that the Flames are unable to find a landing spot for Gillies on another team, and are also blocked from moving him to the ECHL, he would have to stay in Stockton. My suggestion was as a worst case scenario: theoretically, Zagidulin could start in Vegas, and be returned to Stockton as soon as the situation with Gillies is resolved.

[Flash Walken]

Zag was clearly signed with the intention that he would replace Gillies in the organizational depth chart after Gillies fell out of favour last year.

A couple of years further along in his development than Schneider and Parsons, it gives the flames the flexibility to be playing those guys when and how it is best for their development, while giving Stockton help to play more meaningful games.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Zagidulin could start in Vegas

Kansas City.

You may have heard, Vegas doesn't have an ECHL team anymore.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
David Rittich and Cam Talbot are the only two goaltenders on the ice at #Flames practice. Jon Gillies has been placed on waivers.

The only news here is that Derek Wills was first to get this scoop.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It happens rarely, but I believe an NHL team can loan a player to a team in Europe.

I believe the Flames did this with Marcus Nilsson at the end of his career.

[Harry Lime]

There is one team that can give him 1A time in the American League, and will need a backup for next year, when one of their tandem goes UFA.

Micheal Dal Colle has desperately needed a change in scenery out of the Island for about 2 years now. If Gilles could be part of a package for him, that is someone who would flat out fly on a line with Backlund or Ryan.

[TheScorpion]

Dal Colle actually started to find a groove with the Islanders at the end of last season. I could see him needing a trade if he falls off this year, though.

His biggest issue has always been his lack of footspeed, though. I don't know if I'd say he'd "fly" in the right spot.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Micheal Dal Colle has desperately needed a change in scenery out of the Island for about 2 years now. If Gilles could be part of a package for him, that is someone who would flat out fly on a line with Backlund or Ryan.

And watch Mitch Korn turn Gillies into a Vezina contender.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Dal Colle actually started to find a groove with the Islanders at the end of last season. I could see him needing a trade if he falls off this year, though.

His biggest issue has always been his lack of footspeed, though. I don't know if I'd say he'd "fly" in the right spot.

Hmmmm.... I must be thinking of someone else from that draft, who was the one with wheels.

Either way, for a lot of teams that can't draft a goalie to save their lives, Gilles could still be a bit of a commodity.

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Hmmmm.... I must be thinking of someone else from that draft, who was the one with wheels.

Either way, for a lot of teams that can't draft a goalie to save their lives, Gilles could still be a bit of a commodity.

Josh Ho Sang?

[Strange Brew]

Zagidulin is pretty important and at the start of the season, his development takes priority over any of our other goalies. Talbot is still a giant question mark and if the Flames find themselves quickly needing a new backup, Zagidulin is the best bet in the organization. I hope he gets a healthy amount of playing time in Stockton out of the blocks.

[locsofblu]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I'd think the organization wants Zagidulin and Parsons getting the starts in the AHL. Not sure what that means for Gillies.

Cheers. Ya that would seem like the logical thing to do. Maybe even loan him out to another AHL team perhaps but who knows if theres any takers.

[agulati]

Not surprising that he gets waived. I would have thought he might have stuck around till the final roster day though. Gives them an extra practice goalie.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Could the Flames and Gillies mutually agree to terminate the contract?

Say he refused to report to Kansas City.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Could the Flames and Gillies mutually agree to terminate the contract?

Say he refused to report to Kansas City.

Not sure he throws away 750k