Flames training camp roster, schedule and discussion

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Iceman57

I still believe (want) the Flames need to deal Frolik for a stronger shut down third pairing left Dman. That opens up a spot for Dube, we sign Reider or Rinaldo to be the extra forward and place Kylington in the minors to mature....simple, lol.

Likely
Gaudreau ~ Monahan ~ Lindholm
Tkachuk ~ Backlund ~ Bennett
Lucic ~ Ryan ~ Dube
Mangiapane ~ Jankowski ~ Czarnik
Reider/Rinaldo

Giordano ~ Brodie
Hanafin ~ Hamonic
*Trade acquisition* ~ Andersson
Stone


Fantasy
Gaudreau ~ Monahan ~ Tkachuk
Bennett ~ Lindholm ~ Mangiapane
Lucic ~ Backlund ~ Dube
Jankowski ~ Ryan ~ Czarnik
Reider/Rinaldo

Giordano ~ Andersson
Hanafin ~ Hamonic
Brodie ~ *Trade acquisition*
Stone

Where's Frolik?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Kickazzflames

...Mangiapane - Definitely playing like he has missed some preseason, hopefully he steps up in the final few games here.

Weird. I have actually been quite pleased with what I have seen from Mangiapane so far.

[brew]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Where's Frolik?

removed based on the very first thing he said in that post

"I still believe (want) the Flames need to deal Frolik for a stronger shut down third pairing left Dman"

note the *acquisition* on the 3rd D pair

[Iceman57]

Originally Posted by Iceman57

I still believe (want) the Flames need to deal Frolik for a stronger shut down third pairing left Dman. That opens up a spot for Dube, we sign Reider or Rinaldo to be the extra forward and place Kylington in the minors to mature....simple, lol.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Where's Frolik?

Hopefully traded as the post states, lol

[Enoch Root]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm (it works)
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik (this also works)
Dube - Jankowski - Bennett (Dube is smarter and faster than Neal)
Mangiapane - Ryan - Lucic (has already shown signs that it works: speed and grit)
Czarnik, Rinaldo (Czarnik for when they need speed/offence, Rinaldo for grit)

[topfiverecords]

I prefer:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
Bennett - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Backlund - Frolik
Lucic - Ryan - Jankowski

Hot swap Bennett and Tkachuk on occasion

[Squirrel]

I think the Rittich / Talbot duo is going to be one of the best in the league this year, esp. with the solid D in front on them.

[Bingo]

I thought Lucic looked better on his off wing last night as well ... specifically in his own zone.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm (it works)
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik (this also works)
Dube - Jankowski - Bennett (Dube is smarter and faster than Neal)
Mangiapane - Ryan - Lucic (has already shown signs that it works: speed and grit)
Czarnik, Rinaldo (Czarnik for when they need speed/offence, Rinaldo for grit)

Originally Posted by Bingo

I thought Lucic looked better on his off wing last night as well ... specifically in his own zone.

After watching AC's Bennett highlight video yesterday, I am wondering if there isn't some tantalizing chemistry between Bennett and Ryan. I could see a rotation of:

Dube · Jankowski · Mangiapane/Bennett
Lucic · Ryan · Bennett/Mangiapane

[TheScorpion]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1176924388752601096

[transplant99]

Last night was the first time Lucic has shown anything resembling an NHL game, so I agree using him on his off wing may be the way to go.

He looks a bit leaner and may be a tad quicker (in context) than my viewings of him the last couple seasons, so hopefully that's a precursor to not being a complete boat anchor moving forward.

I do like him in front of the net though...he is near impossible to move if he so chooses.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Interesting line there.......Quine/Ryan/Rieder. And Kylington/Stone as a possible 7/8. Looks like Oliver might be getting sent down after all.

[TheIronMaiden]

Just because its fun to play around with lines.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm ( it works don't fix it)
Mangiapane- Backlund - Frolik ( A good line for a rookie)
Lucic -Bennett - Tkachuk ( pure spite)
Dube -Ryan - Jankowski ( a surprisingly offensive fourth line)

Czarnik
Rieder

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I prefer:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
Bennett - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Backlund - Frolik
Lucic - Ryan - Jankowski

Hot swap Bennett and Tkachuk on occasion

If Tkachuk does jump to the top line, I agree that Dube is the perfect fit for Backlund's line.

But with Lindholm at C, Jankowski becomes a square peg.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Interesting line there.......Quine/Ryan/Rieder. And Kylington/Stone as a possible 7/8. Looks like Oliver might be getting sent down after all.

Kylington might be a cap casualty, he makes about 31k more than stone this year in terms of AAV.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

After watching AC's Bennett highlight video yesterday, I am wondering if there isn't some tantalizing chemistry between Bennett and Ryan. I could see a rotation of:

Dube · Jankowski · Mangiapane/Bennett
Lucic · Ryan · Bennett/Mangiapane

This is an interesting thought. Bennett and Lucic together would be hilarious.

Bennett - Ryan - Lucic
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Dube/Czarnik

Bennett and Dube could be reverseable, depending on matchups, how things are going, etc.

And when you need a gritty lineup, you slip Rinaldo into Dube's spot on the 4th line.

[Calgary4LIfe]

With Tkachuk being re-signed, I wonder if Peters tries Lindholm at centre like he wanted to?


Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Jankowski
Dube/Mangiapane/Czarnik - Backlund - Frolik
Lucic - Ryan - Dube/Mangiapane/Czarnik


I think keeping everyone in pairs would work:
Gaudreau - Monahan and Backlund Frolik as the spine of the team.


Lindholm can play with either Bennett or Tkachuk (or both). That should hopefully make for a strong line.


Jankowski would be pushed to the wing - maybe Lindholm's or even the top line if he works out better over Dube, Mangiapane or Czarnik. I think Jankowski is going to take a step this season regardless.


The 4th pair makes sense with Ryan and Lucic.



Peters likes to mix things up anyway, so the extra wingers on every line can just rotate through. I don't like Tkachuk on the same line with Monahan and Gaudreau - it didn't seem to work well, and Lindholm should probably get a rather 'proven' guy to play with in terms of production if he is going to try and centre a scoring line - having Jankowski or Bennett on the right side allows them to take face-offs on their strong side too.


Gives Peters the ability to roll 4 lines a bit easier (if it works out) as you don't really have to shelter the 3rd line any longer (as it should be a strong line with whomever is beside Backlund). He can roll those lines evenly 5on5, which should hopefully help in the long grind that the season is.



Hopefully the rotating wingers end up sticking with certain lines and developing some chemistry. Might work.

[Kovaz]

I still really want to see a Mangiapane-Ryan-Bennett line tried if we keep the same top-6 as last year. They were so good with Hathaway and Bennett is an upgrade in every way but handedness.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Kylington might be a cap casualty, he makes about 31k more than stone this year in terms of AAV.

And opposite side...cant overlook that. RH guys seem to be more popular to have around as extra guy for some reason...or at least thats my perception.

Also, having OK here as the 7th guy makes no sense in terms of his development. Playing regularly as a #1 in the AHL is leaps and bounds better than riding the pine and only practicing with the big club.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Kylington might be a cap casualty, he makes about 31k more than stone this year in terms of AAV.

Agreed, but I think the conversation is more likely centred on Kylington v. MacDonald for the #6 slot. Stone will be the #7 defenseman.