[Signing] Flames sign Tkachuk (3 yrs, $7 mil AAV)

[djsFlames]

Jesus, that's more than Point and he's a centerman and put up more points.

[Strange Brew]

Well Tkachuk's holdout worked for him. He was able to squeeze a few extra dollars and he has a clear path to a big payday with full UFA rights.

As for Treliving, well he got the guy signed and didn't do anything outrageous.

I don't know how people are being so definitive on the taxes that Point will save compared to Tkachuk. It's not as easy as saying he has no state income tax and Tkachuk has provincial tax. Here is an excerpt from a Forbes article on the matter:

"Athletes file taxes not only in their home state but also in every state—and some cities—in which they play. Not every state uses the same calculation to determine what portion of an athlete’s income to tax, and some use different calculations based on the sport. For example, Pennsylvania taxes baseball, basketball and hockey players on the ratio games in the state over total games played, including pre- and postseason, but they tax football players based on days worked in the state over total days worked. Michigan uses the same method but excludes the preseason. Most other states use the days worked method. Arizona uses that method but excludes days worked in the pre-season (otherwise MLB would be shopping for a new spring training home).

The most important issue for an athlete is domicile. This is where a person lives and plans on living into the future. A person can have only one domicile at a given time, and it remains that place until domicile is established somewhere else. Establishing domicile in a low- or no-tax state can save an athlete thousands in taxes by sheltering their endorsement and investment income in a lower tax jurisdiction than where their team is located. Establishing domicile entails acquiring a permanent residence, be it a 12-month apartment lease or buying a house, getting a driver’s license, voter registration and doing other things that show a connection to that location like joining a religious organization or donating to a local charity. But completing all of these tasks is not enough. The athlete must also spend their offseason at their domicile home."


No doubt Point has lower income taxes than Tkachuk but to calculate it as precisely as they have done is overly simplistic.

As for Tkachuk having a lower cost of living than Point, I'm not so sure it's that huge a difference. Exchange rates fluctuate and Ontario is expensive as hell.

[The Cobra]

Tkachuk didn't want to go 6 years, he wanted a contract that took him to UFA.

[FudsMcDuff]

Tkachuk will henceforth be known as TkaCHING!

Sorry...had to

[Flash Walken]

Are there any signing bonuses?

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Disappointed he would not agree to a long term deal. So much for all the talk of Tkachuk being the future captain of the Flames.

Keep in mind this 3 year deal is pretty much using all of the Flames' available cap space. So probably, it was the Flames that couldn't go longer

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Iginla never signed for more than three years with Calgary until he was 30 years old.

Iginla signed the exact same contract I believe (3 years, $21 million), although payment terms were different.

[Jordan!]

So, this all but guarantees Tkachuk will be offered a massive UFA contract with the Coyotes in 3 years.

Nice

[Coach]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

At the end of the day the RFA's basically won largely due to all of them holding out.

They are getting either long term mega deals or short term deals taking them conveniently to UFA status but also getting decent money and lifetime security.

That's the new reality, like it or not.

Treliving's contract to Tkachuk is within similar parameters of what other similar RFA's are getting. This is not one of the Wizards excellent deals, but it is, more or less, comparable to what every similar RFA is getting.

Every contract cannot be a huge win. But this is not a bad one either.

Im personally fine with this reality. It gives both sides more options earlier, which is a good thing in sports when things can change quickly.

Much more palatable than the crazy 8 year deals, IMO.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

So, this all but guarantees Tkachuk will be offered a massive UFA contract with the Coyotes in 3 years.

Nice

He'll still be an RFA at the end of this deal.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

So, this all but guarantees Tkachuk will be offered a massive UFA contract with the Coyotes in 3 years.

Nice

Tkachuk is an RFA in 3 years.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

So, this all but guarantees Tkachuk will be offered a massive UFA contract with the Coyotes in 3 years.

Nice

And all but guarantees Tkachuk will look elsewhere to sign his UFA deal

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Jesus, that's more than Point and he's a centerman and put up more points.

He’s also two years older, had a ridiculous shooting percentage, is a worse Corsi player, and played the majority of his time with Kucherov.

So... lots of factors to consider.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

So, this all but guarantees Tkachuk will be offered a massive UFA contract with the Coyotes in 3 years.

Nice

[Saqe]

If he wants out they can trade him after three years before he hits UFA and get a big return. Three years is a long time.

[doublebass]

This just made my day.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

So, this all but guarantees Tkachuk will be offered a massive UFA contract with the Coyotes in 3 years.

Nice

What you want is for Tkachuk to take his QO in 3 years and then sign in Arizona in year 4.


Also, Auston Matthews will probably demand a trade to Arizona by then too

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Are there any signing bonuses?

4 Mil signing bonus in year 1
3.5 Mil signing bonus in year 2

Tkachuk got basically everything he wanted on this deal it looks like.

Highest AAV, 9 Mil qualifying deal, 1 year from free agency with arb rights, significant signing bonuses.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

And all but guarantees Tkachuk will look elsewhere to sign his UFA deal

No, it guarantees that he will have the leverage to become a UFA in 4 years time, the minimum time period. It doesn't necessarily mean he's going to leave.

Even players who intend to stay were they are at like to have the leverage of becoming UFA's. Stamkos wanted to stay in Tampa, but became a UFA anyway.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

As for Tkachuk having a lower cost of living than Point, I'm not so sure it's that huge a difference. Exchange rates fluctuate and Ontario is expensive as hell.

Good to know. Neither Point nor Tkachuk are based in Ontario, are they?