[Signing] Flames sign Michael Stone to 1 year deal ($700k)

[bigrangy]

Stone is interchangeable with Hamonic to me, buying him out in the first place was dumb. Should have moved Hamonic for picks/never even traded for him in the first place.

Good to have Stone back, hopefully he’s put in the work this off season that a player who’s on their way out of the league should have put in.

[calgarywinning]

Very unusual. I wonder how the NHL will look at this move and the rest of the league? Definitely a move that challenges the essence or purpose of the buyout.

Seems like a loophole used strategically.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by calgarywinning

Very unusual. I wonder how the NHL will look at this move and the rest of the league? Definitely a move that challenges the essence or purpose of the buyout.

Seems like a loophole used strategically.

Hardly. We lost Valimaki long-term between the time we bought Stone out and re-signed him. Circumstances changed.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Stone is interchangeable with Hamonic to me, buying him out in the first place was dumb. Should have moved Hamonic for picks/never even traded for him in the first place.

Good to have Stone back, hopefully he’s put in the work this off season that a player who’s on their way out of the league should have put in.

Wait... Stone is 'a player who's on their way out of the league', and 'Stone is interchangeable with Hamonic'?

So Hamonic is a replacement-level player in your eyes? IMO, that isn't anywhere close to being accurate. Hamonic is a couple levels (at least) above Stone. Hamonic is a legit #4 - on any team. Stone is a #6 or #7 at this point.

[calgarywinning]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

Hardly. We lost Valimaki long-term between the time we bought Stone out and re-signed him. Circumstances changed.

That is one great point. So a legitimate reason. But you can't disagree the intended purpose of a buyout could be used as a loophole going forward?

[Dion]

Meanwhile in the Tkachuk camp...

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Stone is interchangeable with Hamonic to me, buying him out in the first place was dumb. Should have moved Hamonic for picks/never even traded for him in the first place.

Sigh.....

Spoiler!

[FlamesFanFromBC]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Darryl Sutter trades Olli Jokinen on February 1st, 2010.

Darryl Sutter signs Olli Jokinen on July 1st, 2010.

Brad Treliving buys Michael Stone out on August 1st, 2019.

Brad Treliving signs Michael Stone on September 11th, 2019.

...being a Flames fan is weird sometimes.

Acquired Dean McAmmond June 24, 2001
Traded Dean McAmmond October 1, 2002
Acquired Dean McAmmond March 11, 2003

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by FlamesFanFromBC

Acquired Dean McAmmond June 24, 2001
Traded Dean McAmmond October 1, 2002
Acquired Dean McAmmond March 11, 2003

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Darryl Sutter trades Olli Jokinen on February 1st, 2010.

Darryl Sutter signs Olli Jokinen on July 1st, 2010.

Brad Treliving buys Michael Stone out on August 1st, 2019.

Brad Treliving signs Michael Stone on September 11th, 2019.

...being a Flames fan is weird sometimes.

Stop it, you guys....my head hurt, I'm getting dizzy.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by calgarywinning

That is one great point. So a legitimate reason. But you can't disagree the intended purpose of a buyout could be used as a loophole going forward?

Player gets paid.

Team gets penalized.

No stakeholders should have any concern.

[calgarywinning]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Player gets paid.

Team gets penalized.

No stakeholders should have any concern.

When the player and the team are complicit, which I'm not implying in this case at all, you have a loophole creating an unfair advantage.

I don't think this is the case here. I also don't think it's the intent of the buyout clause for a player to resign with the buyout team.

[Strange Brew]

The buyout is ancient history. They signed a defenseman for league minimum and from that perspective, it is a low risk move. Of course there is always risk in deciding which players you will sign, and whether you chose the best option.

He admitted on 960 right now that he was not playing well before being injured and obviously there's a reason he wasn't getting much interest but he's also a Calgary boy who is happy to stay here.

I wish him well and it's not like I know enough about other depth defensemen available to really have an opinion on how good a signing this is. The price is right.

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Surprised Stone couldn't get more from, say, Edmonton.

Perhaps he turned it down!!

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

Perhaps he turned it down!!

This is my bet too. I'm sure Tippett and Smitty have already reached out and attempted to convert him over as soon as the buyout happened.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Yeah, offering Stone the options to
A)
- play under Gully
- with McJesus and Neal committee to a full year of providing no backchecking pressure
- backstopped by Smith who pretty much the worst goalie in the NHL last regular season
- live (if you call it that) in Edmonton

Or
B) go back to the team that threw you in the trash.

Obviously it’s gotta be B)

[midniteowl]

Stone contemplating where to sign...


Stone: Calgary offering me $700k and Edmonton offering significantly more, where should I sign, dear.


Mrs Stone: We are not moving to Edmonton!


Stone: Oh, okay.

[calumniate]

Bone for Stone!

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Stop it, you guys....my head hurt, I'm getting dizzy.

Also add Prust to that list I believe.

[ForeverFlameFan]

The Lucic retention pretty much pays for this, so thank the Oilers

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

Also add Prust to that list I believe.

Not such short times between letting them go and getting them back, but Conroy, Cammalleri, and Tanguay all came back for seconds.