Hitting on Women Thread v2.0

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Wow? We have office pools going already. We should make "Asking out a Girl" a pro-sport.

It'd get higher ratings than the NHL.
I'd fail training camp though.

It's already one if you ever watched "Keys to the VIP" on the Comedy Network.

Edit: Didn't see Bobblehead's post above.

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by MainFlame

My two cents.


If she "really" wanted to go on a date with you, let her ask. I mean........what if she says "no"? Then you have to deal with awkwardness every time she is there. It's not worth it man.

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

That is the best advice for remaining single your entire life that I have ever seen.

i think we've discovered the root of mainflame's bitterness.

mainflame, tell me about your mother.

[Mr.Coffee]

Wookie, I just finished a novel by Neil Strauss, who is a writer for Rolling Stone magazine. It is called "The Game" and is the true story about himself and how he developed from a socially awkward kid from high school who had never kissed a girl to something referred to as a PUA (Pick Up Artist). This book is a classic if you want great advice on how meet women and have them instantly attracted to you. I already have a girlfriend, but it's a great read, and a lot of what he says makes sense. If you have a basic sense of human motivations and what creates desire, you should read this book. He eventually transforms into a machine that other guys mimic in order to try and pick up girls, because of his success at it.

Anyways I'll talk about some of the things he refers to here that could help you out.

Negs
Somebody in this thread already discussed this, but it's absolutely true. Girls are attracted to guys that are not necessarily extremely cocky, but confident. I am assuming you already have this characteristic, based on what you've said, so your a step ahead. Girls don't want a nice guy to be their boyfriend, they want a guy who is a challenge to acquire. It's so true, and I bet you'll meet loads of people that try being nice to girls and don't get anywhere. Girls are hyprocits this way. They claim they want a nice guy, but then don't date them. What's the point of that? A NEG is what Strauss refers to as the perfect way to establish that you don't want to be a LJBF (Let's Just be Friends). It's a comment that keeps the girl wondering if your actually attracted to her. It's not an insult, but it isn't a nice thing either. It would be like saying "Wow your hair looks kind of messy today, is it always like that?" This works especially well when the girl is in a group. I realise in your situation she won't be, so this probably isn't applicable. But if there is a girl say, in a club, with a group of friends, the idea is to go up to them and ask them a question with a wingman or whatever random idea you can think of. At first you ignore the girl your interested in, because typically she'll be the most attractive or interesting looking. She is probably used to being hit on all the time, so if you pretend to be interested in her friends- she wonders why and immediately is intrigued. This also serves the purpose of qualifying yourself with her friends. Eventually you neg her after a couple minutes. If she says something you might say "wow your a loud talker" or something like that. You want to make it sound like your not trying to insult her, but that it's just an observation. She will be even more intrigued. After you neg her, you talk to her a bit and you're going to want to look for an IOI (Indicator of Interest). This can be a range of things, such as particular statements, her general appeal towards you, if she seems like she's into you, if she every so often touches your arm or looks you in your eyes, etc. After 3 IOI's your essentially "in" and can ask for a number, or a date, or whatever.

Making an entrance and presence
Another point Strauss makes is that when you enter a place, you should always enter the room smiling. You want to appear like you are a fun guy to be around. You want to appear like you are confident in yourself, and your abilities. You want them to notice you. Strauss claims that "Peacock Theory" (dressing almost in wild clothing to ensure you catch their attention) works marvelously. He claims it gives you an appearance that isn't just the regular same old designer clothes, you are gauranteed to be noticed. Some girls would like to tell you that appearance doesn't matter, but they and we all know it's a lie. Time to be honest. Appearance does matter, but probably not to the extent guys think it does. Make sure you don't look like you haven't showered in 3 years but also know that a lot of getting the girl relies on what you say, and how you interact with her. Smiling is a big key to success, everybody likes to be around happy people.

I could go on with more acronym's and whatnot, but just know that asking her out when she's at work is a non-issue. It's likely the only time you'll see her in a normal setting, instead of making the scene something uncomfortable like telling her you'll go back when she's done. That seems more creepy to me then actually asking her out at the pool, at least if it's at the pool, your there for a reason and it doesn't seem so completely and blatantly obvious. Just be natural, be fun, and then at the end tell her she's hilarious and you'd like to go out sometime for a drink or whatever. Also, finally, act fast. You don't know when she will be picked up some other time (if she's even single..) and if you wait to long your window of opportunity will close! Good luck.

[Jagger]

This thread is incredible. Who would have thought that Wookie's simple question would have generated 14 pages of responses.....so far....and would have culminated with an offer of a radio show segment by a media personality! Unreal. Ah, the power of CP.

Wookie, ask her out for a coffee at work. I'm sure that's what you're going to do anyway. Good luck. Hope it goes well.

[troutman]

Artist:The StreetsSong:Could Well Be In

I saw this THING on ITV the other week,
Said, that if she played with her hair, she's probably keen
She's playin with her hair, well regularly,
So i reckon i could well be in.

http://www.lyricsdemon.com/75501/the...ld-well-be-in/

As per the Tom Brady Sketch on SNL:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...t=36242&page=3

1. Be Handsome
2. Be Attractive
3. Don't Be Unattractive

The rest is all a mystery.

[Hack&Lube]

They should teach this stuff in Junior High. Would've saved me 10 years (and more going on more) of suffering.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Keys to the VIP

Ever go out to the bar and laugh your buddies trying to pick up? Film it and you have this show; 2 contestants in a real bar being filmed by hidden cameras.

Ahh dating shows. Gotta love them. Or maybe not. Anyone else remember "Studs"? That was a good one for a while. It probably should have been called "Sluts" though because them dames were always putting out for those clowns.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Wookie, I just finished a novel by Neil Strauss, who is a writer for Rolling Stone magazine. It is called "The Game" ...

Geez. Mr.Coffee, where were you during the past 10 years of my life

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by fleury

Geez. Mr.Coffee, where were you during the past 10 years of my life

Believe me, it isn't me, it's the book. If you want some great ideas, that make sense, you should read the book.

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by fleury

Geez. Mr.Coffee, where were you during the past 10 years of my life

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Believe me, it isn't me, it's the book. If you want some great ideas, that make sense, you should read the book.

I understand where you're coming from with the book. But I've heard from a few girls who have had this tried on them, they think it's pretty weird. I'm sure it works, or has some appeal, or some of the idea's are useful for that "in".

One girl in particular mentioned she was drawn along by this for awhile, but once she got to know the person, he was a complete fraud, like everything, job, house, family, friends, (he probably took it to far/literally). hehe

Now one doesn't have to take it that far.. But, unless I was just interested in picking up random chicks at a bar, I don't really see the long term benefit.

I actually think I've had this tried on me before, the weird random comments, then then ignore and then NEG, then some odd looks, I just assumed she was an flakey arrogant bitch Although I could have been out to lunch

Anyway, this is going to be my last reply in this thread until I can manage an update.

Good stuff though

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Wookie

I understand where you're coming from with the book. But I've heard from a few girls who have had this tried on them, they think it's pretty weird. I'm sure it works, or has some appeal, or some of the idea's are useful for that "in".

One girl in particular mentioned she was drawn along by this for awhile, but once she got to know the person, he was a complete fraud, like everything, job, house, family, friends, (he probably took it to far/literally). hehe

Now one doesn't have to take it that far.. But, unless I was just interested in picking up random chicks at a bar, I don't really see the long term benefit.

I actually think I've had this tried on me before, the weird random comments, then then ignore and then NEG, then some odd looks, I just assumed she was an flakey arrogant bitch Although I could have been out to lunch

Anyway, this is going to be my last reply in this thread until I can manage an update.

Good stuff though

Actually he talks about what you just said, in the book. But it's closer to the end, and I didn't want to ruin it for you. He basically states that his material gets over-used, and saturated by impersonal phonies who aren't true to their word. They are just people trying to manipulate, and the online community he associates with changes from a main goal of "getting the girl" in the beginning to "manipulating people" in the end. He offers several examples.

I'm sure this material is used by people all the time. It's a New York Times bestseller! The author himself explains this fact. But the true principles that you can extract from the writing still remain, and remain as very good advice on dating, sex and picking up women.

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Actually he talks about what you just said, in the book. But it's closer to the end, and I didn't want to ruin it for you. He basically states that his material gets over-used, and saturated by impersonal phonies who aren't true to their word. They are just people trying to manipulate, and the online community he associates with changes from a main goal of "getting the girl" in the beginning to "manipulating people" in the end. He offers several examples.

I'm sure this material is used by people all the time. It's a New York Times bestseller! The author himself explains this fact. But the true principles that you can extract from the writing still remain, and remain as very good advice on dating, sex and picking up women.

Didn't expect that response.

Yeah, I'd agree with some of the concepts, as I've seen them work by people who are slightly arrogant, have some certain qualities that have been brought up multiple times in this thread (Sowa).

One thing, I'm not trying to pick anyone up.. I've gotten past the first impression already. Whereas I think this book was more for meeting people and getting in the door.

Regardless I'll probably look at the book one day for casual interest

Still not posting in this thread until an update

[algernon]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

For those of you who keep finding yourselves "just friends" make sure you read this:

http://www.laddertheory.com

Owch. My jaw is hurting. I doubt I have ever laughed as hard <on the internet> as that. It's the truth. Off hand, I can't think of any personal dynamics (mine, or those close to me) that oppose Ladder Theory.
I'm serious. I hope it is.

I have not read the rest of this thread. I will do so now, then posibly edit.

[algernon]

Originally Posted by Wookie

Didn't expect that response.

Yeah, I'd agree with some of the concepts, as I've seen them work by people who are slightly arrogant, have some certain qualities that have been brought up multiple times in this thread (Sowa).

One thing, I'm not trying to pick anyone up.. I've gotten past the first impression already. Whereas I think this book was more for meeting people and getting in the door.

Regardless I'll probably look at the book one day for casual interest

Still not posting in this thread until an update

It's funny, to me, that the hard cover copy of the book is bound exactly like the Bible. Complete with leather covers and the red tassle-page-marker. Ladies: I have not read this book.

Wookie: Here's my advice: just do...

ha ha J/k

this thead is:
In the immortal words of Tony the Tiger; 'GRRReat'!

[bluejays]

bump...lets keep this going (although Wookie is regretting the day he decided to post this).

[Phaneuf3]

OMGWTFBBQ have you done it yet wookie?

[DuffMan]

OMGHI2U

I'm on the edge of my seat.
after? during? none?

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by algernon

Owch. My jaw is hurting. I doubt I have ever laughed as hard <on the internet> as that. It's the truth. Off hand, I can't think of any personal dynamics (mine, or those close to me) that oppose Ladder Theory.
I'm serious. I hope it is.

I have not read the rest of this thread. I will do so now, then posibly edit.

The damn ladder theory again. I've been in the abyss my entire adult life.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by MainFlame

My two cents.


If she "really" wanted to go on a date with you, let her ask. I mean........what if she says "no"? Then you have to deal with awkwardness every time she is there. It's not worth it man.

This is hilarious.... I've always wondered if MainFlame's pessimism was limited to the Flames but clearly it extends to romance and general life too.

A Day in the Life of MainFlame

"I'd try something new on the menu at McDonalds but what if I'm dissapointed? I better not."

"I could go to university, but what if what I take doesn't land me a job? I better stick with Wal-Mart."

"I could watch Talledega Nights but what if I don't laugh? I could get let down. I'd better stick with Cheers."

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

"I'd try something new on the menu at McDonalds but what if I'm dissapointed? I better not."

there's pessimism and then there's just being realistic.