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Old 01-13-2007, 10:40 AM   #1
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Default CES 2007: HD DVD versus Blu-ray - The porn industry says......

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Las Vegas (NV) - Knowing their audience quite well, the adult entertainment industry holds their annual get together in Las Vegas to coincide with the CES. There is also a very pertinent crossover between the adult and tech industries - porn has a tendency to drive, and be driven, by technology. Which means HD DVD when it comes to high-def.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:25 AM   #2
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I saw this yesterday - I think we can declare the HD War over now that the true heavy weights have chosen a side.
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:54 PM   #3
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I thought I read somewhere that some company was showcasing technology at the CES that would be able to put BluRay and HD-DVD formats on the same disc (at the manufacturers level).

Edit: Here..its Warner Bros: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/...d_dvd_blu-ray/
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:56 PM   #4
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Jenna Jameson and Rebecca Wild in HD?..yes please!
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:12 PM   #5
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I thought I read somewhere that some company was showcasing technology at the CES that would be able to put BluRay and HD-DVD formats on the same disc (at the manufacturers level).

Edit: Here..its Warner Bros: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/...d_dvd_blu-ray/

the main problem is that Sony themselves refusted to let manufacturers make DVDs for the porn industry. So Sony was going to lose to begin.
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:54 PM   #6
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Porn is a non-factor in deciding this format war.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:02 PM   #7
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Porn is a non-factor in deciding this format war.
How the hell do you figure that? You do know Porn dominates dvd sales right?
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:09 PM   #8
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And it may very well dominate HD-DVD sales and Blu-ray sales, too. But it being on one format or another shouldn't automatically mean the death knell of the other. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:12 PM   #9
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Well it doesnt automatically spell the death, it may be a huge factor as it was back in the vhs days. Alot of major porn developers were planning to use blu-ray and now cannot, that is alot of money going the other way. Being a 57 billion dollar industry id say it holds some weight. It wont be the do all end all but i do think its a poor decision by sony.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:16 PM   #10
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Before porn became so accessible on the internet I would have said this kills blu-ray. However, now that I can still own a blu-ray machine and get all the porn I could ever want online I don't think it matters as much.

Once HD streaming hits the net (I'm not sure if it has, but if it hasn't, it's coming) the porn industries choice will matter even less.

That said, this is a victory for HD-DVD.
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Well the internet has hurt sales but porn dvd sales still pretty much drives dvds so it hasnt done away with it yet. And i think these movies in hd with increase spending for the first while atleast.
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What on earth is bluray?
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Next generation of DVD disc I believe. I know it has a much larger capacity than a regular DVD. Anything past that, no idea. Perhaps a superior image as well?
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:46 AM   #14
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The porn industry has always been at the beginning of new technology
for viewing their...material.

Cable TV? Yup. Playboy, Penthouse, X-Rated channels were some
of the first.
VCR? Porn movies were some of the first movies you could rent/buy.
DVD? Ditto.
Internet streaming? You guessed it.
PPV? Check out the lineup, and see how many are in your area.

Now they are pushing HD-DVD.

There's the winner.

Here's a link describing the two competitors, BluRay and HD-DVD

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How the hell do you figure that? You do know Porn dominates dvd sales right?
According to the Video Software Dealers Association porn accounts for a mere 2% of DVD sales/rentals. Which makes sense. More people buy regular DVDs and rent regular DVDs than purchase or rent porn. You can see that from teh number of regular video stores and how big they are compared to porn stores.

According to the porn indutry's own, never verified and therefore inflated numbers they account for less than 10%. They are not a significant factor in this format war. Porn makes it money through the internet and that will remain the case. And let's be honest some things you don't want to see in HD!

It also wasn't the big decider for Beta vs VHS either. The adult industry did not pick sides in that battle until it was clear VHS was outselling Beta. Up to that point they offered both formats. What killed Beta was that VHS was a cheaper and more open technology while Beta was Sony's proprietary format that they controlled much too rigidly. IN the end Sony killed their own Betamax format.

What will become a significant factor in all likelihood is the internet HD movie downloads (like the Xbox live service) and eventual HD movie offerings from TV cable companies.

This is not a war that will be over anytime soon. Before the majority of people even start thinking HD-DVD or Blu-ray they have to purchase a HD-TV...which won't be for a few years yet.

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At the 2007-CES, Toshiba announced a 3 layer HD-DVD disk that will bring their capacity to 51GB and about equal to Blu-ray (well, technically 1GB more). link

Although the fact that these discs cannot be played in the current generation of HD-DVD players may offset this gain.
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At the 2007-CES, Toshiba announced a 3 layer HD-DVD disk that will bring their capacity to 51GB and about equal to Blu-ray (well, technically 1GB more). link

Although the fact that these discs cannot be played in the current generation of HD-DVD players may offset this gain.
At this time I don't even think studios are putting movies on anything larger than a 1 layer Blu-Ray disk, while at the same time the industry is using a standard 2 layer HD-DVD disk. So even right now in common practice the HD-DVD has the higher capacity. It may change but it's doubtful that for movie or game storage anything more than th 50 GB will even be used.
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At this time I don't even think studios are putting movies on anything larger than a 1 layer Blu-Ray disk, while at the same time the industry is using a standard 2 layer HD-DVD disk. So even right now in common practice the HD-DVD has the higher capacity. It may change but it's doubtful that for movie or game storage anything more than th 50 GB will even be used.
True, but one of the checkpoints that people always bring up when comparing the 2 are "Blu-ray has a higher maximum capacity".

Personally, I see "Blu-ray has an extra layer of DRM", so that is why I am rooting for HD-DVD (which is backed by MS - I feel so dirty)
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