07-30-2019, 01:33 PM
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#1021
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Titan
Why do renderings have to be so ####ty? Have some clean pics of the exterior from several angles without 1000 people all over the place.
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Because the event centre hasn't been designed yet.
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07-30-2019, 01:34 PM
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#1022
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Barry Munro on why the facility fee (ticket tax) is only 2%: essentially they negotiated a lower facility fee in exchange for more money upfront from CSEC.
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07-30-2019, 01:34 PM
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#1023
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
does Brett Wilson have an ownership in Flames? Doesn't he own a % of Predators?
Land around the new arena?
Why is he yapping about this
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He's a proud Calgarian.....and probably owns land around the new arena site.
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07-30-2019, 01:34 PM
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#1024
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
does Brett Wilson have an ownership in Flames? Doesn't he own a % of Predators?
Land around the new arena?
Why is he yapping about this
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Probably wants to normalize the concept of subsidized arenas.
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07-30-2019, 01:35 PM
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#1025
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Because the event centre hasn't been designed yet.
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Then what is the point of a rendering? I would have to assume they are in the "ballpark" of what it would look like before they start publicly displaying stuff. If they learned nothing from the Next debacle...
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07-30-2019, 01:36 PM
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#1026
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
does Brett Wilson have an ownership in Flames? Doesn't he own a % of Predators?
Land around the new arena?
Why is he yapping about this
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Brett loves him some corporate welfare.
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07-30-2019, 01:36 PM
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#1027
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan
Then what is the point of a rendering? I would have to assume they are in the "ballpark" of what it would look like before they start publicly displaying stuff. If they learned nothing from the Next debacle...
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So they could show something while actually showing nothing.
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07-30-2019, 01:37 PM
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#1028
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
You'll notice they haven't actually cut their prices in response. The Flames increases will start at 20% and depending on what happens the year before could grow to be just as big as Edmonton's.
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You state this like it's fact.
Serious question: are you a STH?
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07-30-2019, 01:39 PM
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#1029
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan
Why do renderings have to be so ####ty? Have some clean pics of the exterior from several angles without 1000 people all over the place.
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Renderings are not typically meant to perfectly depict a building, but instead are used to convey an idea, or mood. In this case, they're trying to market this new arena as something that will activate a pretty dead area of what should be the core of the city, hence the rendering showing a crowded avenue.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snipetype
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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07-30-2019, 01:39 PM
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#1030
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan
Then what is the point of a rendering? I would have to assume they are in the "ballpark" of what it would look like before they start publicly displaying stuff. If they learned nothing from the Next debacle...
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They are presenting the idea of the event centre, and how it will impact the surroundings.
Kind of pointless to focus on what the building looks like, when that is yet to be determined.
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07-30-2019, 01:41 PM
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#1031
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
does Brett Wilson have an ownership in Flames? Doesn't he own a % of Predators?
Land around the new arena?
Why is he yapping about this
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He yaps about everything. He's a prime example of people turning in to idiots on Twitter. I have huge respect for him and the life he's built, but on Twitter he's a complete clown.
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07-30-2019, 01:43 PM
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#1032
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You state this like it's fact.
Serious question: are you a STH?
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It is a fact. You think they're building this thing to improve the fan experience? And I'm not a STH so if they increase them 99%, awesome, good for them.
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07-30-2019, 01:43 PM
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#1033
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
does Brett Wilson have an ownership in Flames? Doesn't he own a % of Predators?
Land around the new arena?
Why is he yapping about this
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Well, he does live in Calgary, so he has as much right to yap about it as any of us do.
I have predicted in the past, and still stand by the prediction, that he will be part of the Flames ownership group before the new building is open.
As I understand it, he owns a very small percentage of the Predators, so that shouldn't be hard for him to sell. Also, Edwards is the only current owner who's under 65, so the ownership group is due for some younger blood.
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07-30-2019, 01:45 PM
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#1034
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
It is a fact. You think they're building this thing to improve the fan experience? And I'm not a STH so if they increase them 99%, awesome, good for them.
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It is not a fact.
You may turn out to be right, but let's try to present opinions appropriately, and not as 'facts'.
Also, it doesn't sound like you think it's awesome.
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07-30-2019, 01:46 PM
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#1035
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Franchise Player
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So predictions? Vote gets delayed? Deal passes today as per agreement in principle?
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07-30-2019, 01:49 PM
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#1036
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
So predictions? Vote gets delayed? Deal passes today as per agreement in principle?
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Unless there have been some serious changes of heart, it is going to get passed.
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07-30-2019, 01:49 PM
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#1037
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
So predictions? Vote gets delayed? Deal passes today as per agreement in principle?
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It will pass with an 11-4 or 10-5 vote, is my guess.
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07-30-2019, 01:50 PM
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#1038
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
It is not a fact.
You may turn out to be right, but let's try to present opinions appropriately, and not as 'facts'.
Also, it doesn't sound like you think it's awesome.
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You're right, it's not a fact, it's the overwhelmingly likely scenario. 20% is typically in the lower end of increases you see when teams move into new buildings. In a bizarre way if you're a STH the worst case scenario is they win the Cup the year before. Then 40% or more will absolutely be in play.
And since I don't intend on going to many games unless someone else is paying for it, if they can increase it 500% and people pay it then more power to them. Capitalism at it's finest.
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07-30-2019, 01:50 PM
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#1039
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Also, Edwards is the only current owner who's under 65, so the ownership group is due for some younger blood.
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Wilson is 62 himself. But it'd make sense, he has a pretty lengthy history working with Edwards.
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07-30-2019, 01:53 PM
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#1040
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North of the River, South of the Bluff
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
With that kind of return Brett should finance it himself!
EDIT:That's about 5% growth over 35 years. Not great, but not bad. Unfortunately it ignores the fact that, like the Saddledome, that's not how it works.
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Your right, even if the property was to appreciate who would buy it? To be purposed as...condos, office space, warehouse storage? Is there any precedent of a stadium being sold especially if it does not come with a team?
Honestly curious, but this appears to be paper worth(less). Even if the event center becomes like a mini MSG.
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