You can pretty much post this ad nauseum forever each time this happens... It never stops applying.
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Much like the attitude towards tobacco and homosexuality has changed at the cultural level, it's possible to change the culture around guns.
But Sandy Hook taught us that there is no political will to change anything which is sad and leaves the rest of the civilized world scratching their heads.
It’s a culture of fear. Some Americans have such distrust for their neighbors that to not have firearms for self defense purposes boggles their minds. How do you change that? Education, I guess. Therapy on a national level? Discussion? It won’t be easy or quick, that’s for sure. I still have hope.
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So it appears he fired off 53 shots(reloaded once) in 58 seconds killing 3 and injuring 12 before a cop shot him in the back. Just imagine the carnage had there hadn't been a cop seconds away.
If or whenever they come to their senses these assault style rifles with 30 round mags need to be the first thing banned
So it appears he fired off 53 shots(reloaded once) in 58 seconds killing 3 and injuring 12 before a cop shot him in the back. Just imagine the carnage had there hadn't been a cop seconds away.
If or whenever they come to their senses these assault style rifles with 30 round mags need to be the first thing banned
I've always said that civilian guns should be really hard to reload and take a bunch of time to do it. Sort of like a civil war rifle. Its tough to do a mass shooting if you have to shoot, stop rip open a powder bag, pour the powder in, tamp it down, drop the bullet in, replace the tamping rod and then you can fire.
Every gun should have a 36 digit key pad that allows you to reload the gun.
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It’s a culture of fear. Some Americans have such distrust for their neighbors that to not have firearms for self defense purposes boggles their minds. How do you change that? Education, I guess. Therapy on a national level? Discussion? It won’t be easy or quick, that’s for sure. I still have hope.
It seems to me that the culture essentially treats guns as a facet of life just like cars, and that the national consciousness therefore sees gun accidents as an unavoidable incidence of that reality, like car accidents are for cars. In effect, people who do this stuff are thought of as the drunk drivers of gun ownership. Just as your average responsible Corvette owner would be upset at the notion that he can't drive his fast car just because some other a-hole decided to get liquored up and run a red light, so gun owners bristle at the thought of having bad actors influence their ability to enjoy their hobby to its fullest and buy whatever wholly impractical (though deadly in the wrong hands) toy they want to.
That, as near as I can tell, is the mindset. And it's going to be a pretty hard one to change, unfortunately.
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It seems to me that the culture essentially treats guns as a facet of life just like cars, and that the national consciousness therefore sees gun accidents as an unavoidable incidence of that reality, like car accidents are for cars. In effect, people who do this stuff are thought of as the drunk drivers of gun ownership. Just as your average responsible Corvette owner would be upset at the notion that he can't drive his fast car just because some other a-hole decided to get liquored up and run a red light, so gun owners bristle at the thought of having bad actors influence their ability to enjoy their hobby to its fullest and buy whatever wholly impractical (though deadly in the wrong hands) toy they want to.
That, as near as I can tell, is the mindset. And it's going to be a pretty hard one to change, unfortunately.
I lived down there for a few years and this is exactly it (at least it is in the South).
The problem is, your Corvette is designed primarily for transportation and ownership is still heavily regulated. Guns are designed for murder, yet it's impossible to convince some that they should be licensed and regulated. Just weird.
I've always said, and repeatedly here that having a gun for home defense is just plain dumb because it puts you in more danger and your family in more danger then it protects them.
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1) Scenario 1 - You hear a noise late at night, and you wake up, adrenaline pumps through your veins as you grab your pistol out of your sock drawer and check to make sure that its loaded and the round is chambered. Its dark in the house, and you hear the floor boards creaking down stairs. You lean over the stair well and yell freeze and see a flash of movement. You squeeze the trigger and hear a body hit the ground, one less criminal in the world. you flip on the light and to your horror its your 15 year old son or daughter who was sneaking back into the house.
2) Scenario 2 - You hear the sounds like its described above and grab your gun. You race towards the danger because a gun makes you feel manly and brave like those soldiers in WW2. You snap up your weapon and flip on the lights and see the burgler and yell freeze, but you failed to asses the situation preperly and his buddy fires first killing you. He then picks up your gun.
3) Scenario three, see above - Except you yell freeze and the robber breaks for the back door and runs out, full of adrenaline and anger at this invasion of privacy. You step on the porch and aim and fire, and hit the criminal in the back on your front lawn. Congratulations you're going to jail because of your ####ty judgement
4) Scenario 4 same as above, but as the criminal runs across the lawn, you point and aim, the shot goes wide passing through the window of the house across the street killing the teenage son of your now former best friends the Smiths.
5) Scenario 5 - See above. You grab your gun and check to make sure its loaded. You flick off your safety ignoring everything your instructor taught you because of adreneline. The house is dark, you run down the hallway and hit the stairs. Your feet become entangled as you trip over your daughters damned cabbage patch kill doll and you fall. The last thing you hear is a bang as when you fell you accidentally aimed the gun at your head and pulled the trigger on impact.
So what's my point?
Guns for home defense are stupid. They give you false bravado, most people aren't trained well enough or have the common sense to properly asses the situation. You're in a scenario where you're pumped full of adreneline and aren't thinking clearly.
Its stupid. Also guns for home defense just beg for a violent response. Who gives a shyte if someone steals your TV, or your wife's jewelry. The Deadliest weapon and any cop will tell you isn't a gun in your home, its your phone.
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I feel like every time they do those "would your dog protect your house from an intruder" things, the answer is a resounding "no, he'll try to play with the intruder".
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Yes, most people prefer their dogs to be friendly and lovable goodboys. For obvious reasons. Hence the big scary dog idea being no more effective than the big scary gun idea.
Although at least with the dog you eliminate the risk of accidentally killing a family member, so it has that going for it.
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Yes, most people prefer their dogs to be friendly and lovable goodboys. For obvious reasons. Hence the big scary dog idea being no more effective than the big scary gun idea.
Although at least with the dog you eliminate the risk of accidentally killing a family member, so it has that going for it.
No you definitely do not eliminate that risk with a dog.
Can education compete with the NRA though? Is there a stomach to do that.
No president has really gone after the NRA, there's too much money and lobbying activity there.
Is it really that much money? I am just surprised some altruist billionaire doesn’t do something. Hopefully the NRA is still rotting from their recent scandals
Is it really that much money? I am just surprised some altruist billionaire doesn’t do something. Hopefully the NRA is still rotting from their recent scandals
