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		|  07-27-2019, 03:54 PM | #1 |  
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				 2019/2020 - Flames Opening Lineup 
 
			
			I was trying to guess our 2019-2020 opening lineup for the 1st regular season game and it was not that obvious due to the abundance of centre players on the roster.  I do believe Peters will let Lucic play on the 2nd line, at least for a bit, to see if he can keep up.  If he can, it would be a really tough second line to play against.  If he can't keep up (and I believe it's a more likely scenario), I think he's gonna be swapped with Frolik and moved down a line to play on the 3rd, with Bennett and Jankowski, eventually, which is not too bad of a line either.  Anyway, here's my guess:
 Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
 Lucic - Backlund - Tkachuk
 Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik
 Mangiapane - Ryan - Czarnik
 
 Giordano - Brodie
 Hamonic - Hanifin
 Andersson - Valimaki
 
 Rittich
 
 Post your opening lineup guess for bragging rights to whoever guesses it correctly.  Hey, it's July...
 
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:02 PM | #2 |  
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			I think Dube will be on the opening night lineup.
 Brodie will be traded, Frolik kept for lack of RW - we don’t have the cap unless either Frolik or Brodie go.
 
 Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
 Mangiapane-Backlund-Tkachuk
 Bennett-Ryan-Frolik
 Lucic-Jankowski-Dube
 
 Gio-Andersson
 Hanifin-Hamonic
 Valimaki-Kylington
 Stone
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
 
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:06 PM | #3 |  
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			Gaudreau - Monahan - LindholmTkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
 Lucic - Ryan - Mangiapane
 Dube - Jankowski - Czarnik
 Quine
 
 Giordano - Brodie
 Hanifin - Hamonic
 Valimaki - Andersson
 Stone
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
 
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:07 PM | #4 |  
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			Gaudeau - Monahan - LindholmTkachuk - Turris - Bennett
 Lucic - Backlund - Maroon
 Mangiapane - Ryan - Dube
 
 Giordano - Andersson
 Hanifin - Hamonic
 Kylington - Stone
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:07 PM | #5 |  
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			Current:
 Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
 Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
 Lucic - Jankowski - Bennett
 Mangiapane - Ryan - Czarnik
 
 Dube, Quine
 
 Giordano - Brodie
 Hanifin - Hamonic
 Valimaki - Andersson
 
 Stone
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
 
 Need to clear about $2.5 million if Tkachuk signs for $7.5 million cap hit.
 
 Frolik, Brodie, Stone the most likely to be moved IMO.
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:11 PM | #6 |  
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				Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Calgary, AB      | 
 
			
			It’s probably way too early for this since there has to be a couple of moves to be made. I still think at least Brodie and maybe Frolik are traded and another right winger is brought in.  
 This is what I hope it looks like up front:
 
 Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
 Bennett - Lindholm - New Winger
 Lucic - Backlund - Jankowski
 Mangiapane - Ryan - Dube
 
 It more likely looks like this up front:
 Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
 Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
 Lucic - Ryan - Bennett
 Mangiapane - Jankowski - Dube
 
 Giordano - Andersson
 Hanafin - Hamonic
 Valamaki - Stone
 Kylington
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
 
 
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:14 PM | #7 |  
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			Gaudreau Monahan LindholmTkachuk Backlund Frolik
 Bennett Jankowski Lucic
 Mangiapane Ryan Dube
 Czarnik, Quine
 
 Giordano Brodie
 Hanifin Hamonic
 Valimaki Andersson
 Kylington
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
 
 Stone moved to Ottawa for like a 6th or a 7th
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:23 PM | #8 |  
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			Why are people still pencilling in Frolik?  He won't be here after last years debacle. Just a matter of time.
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:27 PM | #9 |  
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:48 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by dissentowner  Why are people still pencilling in Frolik?  He won't be here after last years debacle. Just a matter of time. |  
Brad, is that you?
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:51 PM | #11 |  
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			Gaudreau - Monahan - LindholmTkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
 Lucic - Ryan - Player added in trade
 Mangiapane - Dube - Czarnik
 
 Giordano - Andersson
 Hanifin - Hamonic
 Valimaki - Kylington
 Davidson
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:58 PM | #12 |  
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			Gaudreau - Monahan - ToffoliTkachuk - Lindholm - Bennett
 Lucic - Backlund - Mangiapane
 Jankowski - Dube - Ryan
 Quine
 
 Giordano - Andersson
 Hanifin - Hamonic
 Valimaki - Yelesin
 Kylington
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
 
 Frolik for mid picks
 Stone for late pick or buyout
 Brodie + Czarnik for Toffoli
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:58 PM | #13 |  
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			Bold prediction: Tkachuk will not be signed, and Brodie and Frolik will still be on the roster (Stone will either be bought out or traded for a pick with salary retained):
 Gaudreau Monahan Lindholm
 Dube Backlund Frolik
 Lucic Ryan Bennett
 Mangiapane Jankowski Czarnik
 Quine
 
 Gio Andersson
 Hanifin Hamonic
 Valimaki Brodie
 Kylington
 
 Rittich
 Talbot
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		|  07-27-2019, 04:59 PM | #14 |  
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			I just don't see a future where Frolik is on the team to begin the year. I think both sides are looking for a fresh start.
 If he's gone, then neither Stone nor Brodie need to go anywhere. I'd honestly be shocked if Stone is bought out, it makes no sense at all.
 
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		|  07-27-2019, 05:00 PM | #15 |  
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			They don’t absolutely need to trade Frolik or Brodie. They can make the team fit under the salary cap by buying out Stone and going 13F, 7D, 2G.
 This, then, is my prediction for the opening day lineup.
 
 Gaudreau (6.75) - Monahan (6.375) - Lindholm (4.85)
 Tkachuk (8) - Backlund (5.35) - Bennett (2.55)
 Mangiapane (1.2) - Ryan (3.125) - Frolik (4.3)
 Lucic (5.25) - Jankowski (1.675) - Czarnik (1.25)/Dube (0.778)
 LW - C - Dube (0.778)/Czarnik (1.25)
 
 Giordano (6.75) - Brodie (4.650400)
 Hanifin (4.95) - Hamonic (3.857143)
 Valimaki (0.894166) - Andersson (0.755833)
 Davidson (0.7) - RD
 
 Rittich (2.75)
 Talbot (2.75)
 
 Buyout: Brouwer (1.5), Stone (1.166667)
 
 Salary Cap: 81.5
 Cost of Roster: 51.463 + 21.857542 + 5.5 + 2.666667 = 81.487209
 Salary Cap Space: 0.012791
 
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		|  07-27-2019, 05:02 PM | #16 |  
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			Frolik and Brodie have both already been traded in deals that fell through...it's not much of a reach to suggest they won't be here.  Especially Fro
		 
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		|  07-27-2019, 05:12 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame  Brad, is that you? |  
I don't have to be Brad to realize you don't keep a disgruntled player on the team. Like this is pretty much common sense. We don't need the distraction and Brad knows this.
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		|  07-27-2019, 06:07 PM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by dissentowner  I don't have to be Brad to realize you don't keep a disgruntled player on the team. Like this is pretty much common sense. We don't need the distraction and Brad knows this. |  
I just put him because he's still here but noted he's most likely moved.
 
However, maybe he's not disgruntled anymore? Maybe his biggest beef was Neal? I dunno, just tossing ideas around.
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		|  07-27-2019, 07:05 PM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by dissentowner  I don't have to be Brad to realize you don't keep a disgruntled player on the team. Like this is pretty much common sense. We don't need the distraction and Brad knows this. |  
I think Frolik was perfectly in the right to speak up.  Neal was playing like crap, being gifted time, and hurting the team.  Frolik’s agent advocated for his client who was being healthy scratched.  It wasn’t an extended sideshow or anything.
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		|  07-27-2019, 07:13 PM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by dissentowner  I don't have to be Brad to realize you don't keep a disgruntled player on the team. Like this is pretty much common sense. We don't need the distraction and Brad knows this. |  
Plus, he can't be Brad.  He didn't say the word "process" at all.
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