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View Poll Results: What do you think of the trade after a week of getting your head around it?
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Love it, think Lucic is an upgrade
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Like it, clears some cap space even if Lucic is no better
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Indifferent, both teams getting a failed project
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Dislike it, Neal needed another year to bounce back
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16.49% |
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Hate it, Neal will be better in Edmonton
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07-19-2019, 05:34 PM
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#841
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: The real "Cowtown"
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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I shall quote the tweet one more time.
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07-19-2019, 05:34 PM
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#842
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Scoring Winger
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I choose to remain optimistic. There is a LOOOOONG list of players whom, when freed from Edmonton, go on to be better players. Lupul, Satan, Taylor, Dubnyk, etc. Irrational perspective, but I'm clinging to it.
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07-19-2019, 05:34 PM
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#843
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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Is he honoring his buddy Lance Bouma?
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07-19-2019, 05:34 PM
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#844
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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07-19-2019, 05:35 PM
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#845
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First Line Centre
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https://twitter.com/ryanleslie73/sta...181741056?s=20
Cond 3rd + Lucic (12.5% retained) for Neal
So the Oilers are going to have a $6.50M cap hit out of this, and the Flames are going to have a $5.25M cap hit.
Last edited by Nelson; 07-19-2019 at 05:37 PM.
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07-19-2019, 05:36 PM
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#846
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
So last year at some point was Treliving thinking, you know, this team is great and all, but what it really needs is an infusion from Oilers. It needs Talbot and Lucic.
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The plan is, he will keep losing "trades" to the Oilers, until the Oilers are so arrogantly confident that they trade McDavid to the Flames believing that they can win any trade.
You know how arrogant the Oilers and the fans get.
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07-19-2019, 05:36 PM
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#848
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Neal’s complete lack of ability to defend is why I’m happy this went thru.
Colorado preyed on him in the playoffs.
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07-19-2019, 05:36 PM
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#849
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First Line Centre
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I'm happy I can cheer for Lucic again. Loved him on the Bruins... Didn't warrant the Oilers contract at all though... But he brings a lot of what Neal lacked, in that he brings heart and toughness. I'd rather have Lucic on the team than James "Entitled" Neal, who seemed to not give a damn.
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07-19-2019, 05:37 PM
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#850
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zamler
I predict that tweet will be quoted at least one more time.
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I got you
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07-19-2019, 05:37 PM
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#851
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Well the conditional 3rd is better than nothing providing it's attainable but I think the Flames should have received more back for helping the Oilers get rid of that contract.
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07-19-2019, 05:37 PM
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#852
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Yoho
Neal’s complete lack of ability to defend is why I’m happy this went thru.
Colorado preyed on him in the playoffs.
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Yeah at least Lucic isn’t going to be blowing the zone... when we don’t have the puck.
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07-19-2019, 05:38 PM
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#853
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#1 Goaltender
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So they essentially have Neal at a 6.5 cap hit.... woof
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07-19-2019, 05:39 PM
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#854
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Franchise Player
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What's the condition on the 3rd?
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07-19-2019, 05:39 PM
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#855
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Franchise Player
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I'd like to know what the conditions on that pick are. Can it get better based on performance?
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07-19-2019, 05:39 PM
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#856
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Well the conditional 3rd is better than nothing providing it's attainable but I think the Flames should have received more back for helping the Oilers get rid of that contract.
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I don't know if the expansion protection was really much of a bind for the Oilers.
Other than McDavid, Draisatl and RNH, what other forward was worth protecting?
The expansion implications to the Oilers was probably overblown.
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07-19-2019, 05:40 PM
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#857
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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I'm not going to #### on the trade because there's people with more energy than I who have already done that. Instead I'll focus on one of the small positives and that is that Lucic actually wants to be a Flame and seems excited to come here. Nothing worse than a player with a ####ty attitude or unwillingness to buy into the team. Say what you will about Lucic but I don't think either of those are an issue with him.
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07-19-2019, 05:40 PM
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#858
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Franchise Player
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Screw the pick, I want to know what details of the NMC got hammered out
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07-19-2019, 05:40 PM
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#859
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by 868904
But why?
He beats people up and his lack of fights is because people are scared of him, not because he isn't willing.
Tkachuk and Bennett were just given a "hall pass". I'd love to see Bennett centre Tkachuk and Lucic.
Plus I am forever in debt with gratitude to any member of the 2011 Bruins. I have no problem with Lucic or Marchand. Players you love to hate.
If Lucic puts up 30 points and is a physical presence and adds an inch or two to every player on this roster, he still brings more value than Neal putting up 20 goals and 45 points.
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This!!!
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07-19-2019, 05:40 PM
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#860
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by neo45
That’s not how buyouts work. It’s not one massive check
I also think they are smart enough businessmen to wrap their head around first year Econ concepts like “sunk costs” and “time value of money” to realize you save money buying out bad contacts. They have been buying out a ton lately.
Neal buyout and Ferland signing costs them identical dollars this season to just paying Neal, and they would get the better player. It’s a part of Treliving’s job to be able to sell ownership on good ideas
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You’re missing the point. They’re writing a massive cheque (or numerous smaller ones if you want to be semantic) and then having to spend that money again in another player. No way they were ever buying out Neal.
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